Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

Aggregate said:
That's a bad attempt at trolling, nobody buys these kind of simplified explanations anymore. Please go and give these kind of analysis at some 1260s Crusaders conference.
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Judging by the number of attacks on GCC compared to number of successful attacks on Israel.
Arabs are getting hit more by Iran
 
safriz said:
Well Arabs are Muslims, and good friends of Pakistan. So yes, I am siding with them.
Not everyone will take your side. Thats how the world goes round
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Sure bro, today you are with zionists, tomorrow you can side with Dajjal, dont matter to me, suit yourself.
 
Immortals said:
Iran air defense engaging a fighter jet: seen firing off flares (NOTE: no proof it was hit).



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Jets can still fire flares even after being hit though, not saying that this particular jet was definitely hit.
 
hussain0216 said:
China is generally happy to sell to any buyer as long as it doesn't effect Chinese interests

China would happily sell Iran whatever it wants or needs

The problem is U.S/western sanctions make the deal unlucrative, any money china makes from the deal may be countered by sanctions etc

And china always acts in it's own interests and if a country wants more Chinese support then it has to work with China more closely


Pakistan is close to China, and because our relationship is so close whenever our back was against the wall for whatever reason, we could also rely on support from China

Even in the conflict with India last year, Pakistan received support from both China and Turkey
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I don't really want to comment on the China-Pakistan relations as it does not concern me.

I will share a lesson of history with you, hopefully it might clear some things up for you about my opinion:

In the early 19th century, France and Iran were at war with the Tsarist Russia. Iran under the reign of the Qajar dynasty signed a strategic treaty with France under the reign of Napoleon Bonaparte. Based on this treaty, France agreed to guarantee Iran's territorial integrity, help Iran retake Georgia, and train and equip Iranian armed forces against Tsarist Russia. The French started to train Qajar's armed forces. In return, Iran agreed to severe diplomatic ties with the British, provide the French with a route towards India and to side with France in future conflicts against the British.

A few months or years later, France reached a peace treaty with the Tsarist Russia (the Tilsit Treaty). France chose to establish "brotherly" ties with the Russians against the British. Iran was thrown under the bus. This eventually led to Iran giving concessions to the British, and led to defeats against the Tsarist Russia that led to some of the most humiliating peace treaties that we ever signed.

This whole concept of a strategic alliance with a power that shares a common enemy with you is cool, but when that power has a history of throwing their friends under the bus, it should not be taken for granted.
 
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