Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

[Immortals]

A helicopter is by its nature a weakly protected and soft skinned target ( except for a AH-1 or Apache of course). The fact that a MANPAD could not take down a helicopter which should be quite easy does suggest a design flaw in the MANPADs that Iran operates. I can understand a fast jet not be downed, but a helicopter should be taken down by a MANPAD...

We have been over this, a manpad’s warhead is 6-7kg of Airburst fragmentation variety some have slightly bigger ones like US stinger. So unless you fragment around the tail, the chopper can continue flying.

Also it’s quite possible the helicopter took small arms fire or maybe LMG fire. The small fire looked to be around the rotor maybe a fuel line was hit or something. It wasn’t near the tail.

 

[Flotilla]

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need these guys ...

Again the real way to shoot those helicopters and SP OP C130 it is with Missile 358. Those with IR will be deceived easily with their DIRCM. Probably that was the reason why MANPADs just hit A10 and F16... and maybe the F15.... Because none of them have DIRCM.

 

[Persian Gulf]

Confirmed by the U.S. side:

- shot down US F-15E over west Iran, 1 crew still unaccounted for

- hit and damaged Blackhawk helicopter sent to rescue the crew

- hit and lightly damaged A-10 sent to rescue the crew (Babak's claim for now)

it's a shame the helicopter wasn't downed. but if they find the other F-15 crew member then it's a good blow to the US.

 

[Immortals]

Location seems to be changing.

 

[Persian Gulf]

We have been over this, a manpad’s warhead is 6-7kg of Airburst fragmentation variety some have slightly bigger ones like US stinger. So unless you fragment around the tail, the chopper can continue flying.

Also it’s quite possible the helicopter took small arms fire or maybe LMG fire. The small fire looked to be around the rotor maybe a fuel line was hit or something. It wasn’t near the tail.

hilarious if the Bakhtiari tribal legends hit it with a random rifle

 

[FUB]

Bakhtiyari heros probably shot it down with a bolt-action rifle LMAO

 

[Falcon29]

Jew-lani will reel them in. Israel already said they should assassinate him. If he doesn’t stop attacks then he will be killed.

I’m sure Turkey will also put pressure on him to prevent the war from spreading.

Once again do not refer to Muslim leaders as Jews without evidence. It's a big slander and equivalent of doing takfir.

Now to the topic, actually Ahmed Sharaa realizes this as an opportunity to pressure Israel and the West.

Why? Because their promises of lifting sanctions and allowing for reconstruction of Syria are falling flat on their head. In other words they're selling cheap talk to Syrians and trying to keep Syria as a nation that's not truly sovereign, but reduced to living off aid handouts and not progressing in any sense.

Same way they do with Palestinains. Now I do not know if that tweet is true. It likely isn't. But I'll check sources.

They certainly aren't doing it for Iran but they're fed up of this stalling going on where Arab/Europeans/US sell cheap talk but are actually treating Syria same way as Hamas in Gaza or Morsi in Egypt.

 

[Persian Gulf]

image of the damaged Black Hawk helicopter

 

[Immortals]

 

[FUB]

About time

 

[Persian Gulf]

based Ghalibaf / Mojtaba

 

[Zoyou]

 

[Shags101]

48 ceasefire in exchange for the pilot I’m assuming

 

[Aggregate]

With 1 pilot of F15 already missing and dangerous SAR operations going on ...

If this trend continues .. and even 1 to 2 more pilots potentially fall into Iran, this will quickly turn into a nightmare for Trump to manage and handle.

Based on a large number of posts and comments I have been seeing today ... In the eyes of US public , Trump's reckless and pointless war has started to now put pilots, as well as but lots of SAR personnel at risk, for no reason.

 

[UKBengali]

Remind me again what is the point of Iran wanting a ceasefire with the US?

ABM interceptor stockpiles are low and Zio-US simply can resume the bombing down the line in the future.

Iran needs to finish this for good by severely spanking both the GCC puppets and the Zionist entity.