Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

BigMela2onin said:
Enemy interceptor stocks are decreasing, Iran is selling oil again, the war is unpopular in the US, the enemy can't crack the missile bases, Europe has broken with the US, AD is still up and US still lost 3 aircraft in one day. You should look at this more as a guerilla war than a conventional war because that's what it is. Every setback isn't defeat and some losses will happen. You and Persian Gulf are spreading defeatism while people in Iran standing tall and resisting.
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Yes, that's the only silver lining here that I can think of. But ironically, even though our enemies are running out of interceptors, we do not see a meaningful increase in our destructive power. That's what worries me. Our target selection in Week 5 wasn't that good.

Do you seriously think that the USN cannot target Iranian oil tankers in the Arabian Sea or the Indian Ocean? Do you think Iran is selling oil because of military reasons? We can't even escort our tankers.

The Vietnam War was unpopular in the US. It lasted 2 f*cking decades.

Europe is still pretty much in an alliance with the US. Do you know why Europeans are not interested in this war? First and foremost, immigration. They do not want a failed state with 93 million Muslims next to Europe. Also, Iran is the only thing that keeps Afghan immigrants from going to Turkey and Europe. After that, they have economic reasons. None of this means that Europe has broken with the US.

Our AD is still functional but it is not performing as wonderfully as people here like to claim. They have had thousands of sorties over Iran in the last 36 days and we have shot down only an F-15.
Also, we failed to shoot down a C-130 that was deep inside our territory for several hours.

You really need to differentiate between criticism and defeatism. If valid criticisms had not been overlooked in the last 20 years, we wouldn't have been in this situation in the first place.
 
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ShapurII said:
Yes, that's the only silver lining here that I can think of. But ironically, even though our enemies are running out of interceptors, we do not see a meaningful increase in our destructive power. That's what worries me. Our target selection in Week 5 wasn't that good.

Do you seriously think that the USN cannot target Iranian oil tankers in the Arabian Sea or the Indian Ocean? Do you think Iran is selling oil because of military reasons? We can't even escort our tankers.

The Vietnam War was unpopular in the US. It lasted 2 f*cking decades.

Europe is still pretty much in an alliance with the US. Do you know why Europeans are not interested in this war? First and foremost, immigration. They do not want a failed state with 93 million Muslims next to Europe. Also, Iran is the only thing that keeps Afghan immigrants from going to Turkey and Europe. After that, they have economic reasons. None of this means that Europe has broken with the US.

Our AD is still functional but it is not performing as wonderfully as people here like to claim. They have had thousands of sorties over Iran in the last 36 days and we have shot down only an F-15.
Also, we failed to shoot down a C-130 that was deep inside our territory for several hours.

You really need to differentiate between criticism and defeatism. If valid criticisms had not been overlooked in the last 20 years, we wouldn't have been in this situation in the first place.
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Have faith . No one believed Iran could last this long .
 
ShapurII said:
Going into Week 6 of this war, I am yet to understand why we have been funding the Artesh for all these years.

The IRIAF was absolutely absent in both wars. The IRIN lost nearly all of its assets in a week. And I have seen nothing from the IRIGF and the IRIAA either.

And yes, if this is how we are going to perform on the ground, we will be cooked when a ground invasion starts.
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The Artesh and Sepah Ground forces have only one job right now. It is to conceal and preserve survive their combat forces for the time that they are actually needed. You people want them to come out from under concealment to give away their positions to chase one U.S WSO and risk getting decimated by U.S/Israeli Air attacks is totally armature.
 
Kyussis said:
The Artesh and Sepah Ground forces have only one job right now. It is to conceal and preserve survive their combat forces for the time that they are actually needed. You people want them to come out from under concealment to give away their positions to chase one U.S WSO and risk getting decimated by U.S/Israeli Air attacks is totally armature.
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it seems every branch of the army thinks its job is to disappear and survive during wartime

it's quite a novel approach
 
SolarWarden said:
What sources were these people(x accounts) using saying he's alive? My Vulcan side tells me it's a recovery not a rescue.
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Jack Murphy - former green beret turned “journalist” and podcaster says 2nd pilot was rescued alive. He said this 3 hours ago before any even knew of fierce fighting.

Before that I think some western MSM said yesterday that military sources told them they had heard from the second pilot and that he was alive.

To me it seems like it was always a recovery mission. First day was to get the alive pilot and because they met resistance they aborted finding the body of second.
 
I checked it again with Grok
 

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