Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

[Kyussis]

If any of you have ever worked with tracking devices you would understand the advantages that the Americans had .
Imagine you have a gps tracker installed in a car and you are trying to find the car in a city the size of Tehran. without access to the gps data ,It is virtually impossible to. The car can be anywhere and hidden in all sorts of structures . If you have the GPS coordinates, you can go to the precise location.
Americans have access to real live sat data and they were able to find him and drop in and grab him and get out .
Iranian planners, who lost their brothers and neighbors ( bachehaye mahal) during the 8 year because they did not have access to weapons made the right decision. We don’t have an Air Force because no one was willing to sell Iran anything . Even if we did, we could not match Israel and the US. They made the right choice to invest in missiles, drones, and a symmetric operations.
The US suffered over 2 billion dollars in losses from destruction of its aircraft.
Once you add the radars, bases, and cost of operations over the last 36 days , you are north of $50 billion dollars . Which country has given the US armed forces such a beat down since WWII? Which country has dared to defy the US and go to war and have the upper hand after 36 days ?
Today Buck Rogers saved America in a Hollywood setting with their trillion dollar defense budget . This war is far from over . Iran has the cards , and the US knows that otherwise they would not request a 48 cease fire .

Especially when the car is trying its best to hide from you!

 

[dr.coomer]

and worth every penny...... of which they have stop making.

tbh it was a waste, the pilot isnt going to be flying any aircraft and will probably go on disability. If I were in charge of CENTCOM I would've just left him there.

 

[Falcon29]

The U.S. lost 52 fixed wing aircraft and 23 helicopters in the Gulf War. In the Iraq war the U.S. lost nearly 150 helicopters. Losses have actually been at a minimum both from Iranian fire and friendly fire thus far.

The Gulf War was many magnitudes more lethal and enormous in scale with massive ground troop deployment. That is total coalition losses too. Iraqi army was probably better trained than iranian ground forces and more experienced.

Today there is a bigger technology gap. Steal fighter jets, modern avionics and more. The war is mainly conducted via the air.

Iran was unable to acquire an air force or defense systems. Nobody is really willing to sell Iran weapons for fear of being sanctioned by USA.

Israel already degraded Iranian AA capabilities in June 2025.

For modern US war standards the Trump administration is incompetent.

 

[Immortals]

@ShapurII

Like I said, seems like Iran tried given its resources and the remote region.

 

[ShapurII]

If any of you have ever worked with tracking devices you would understand the advantages that the Americans had .
Imagine you have a gps tracker installed in a car and you are trying to find the car in a city the size of Tehran. without access to the gps data ,It is virtually impossible to. The car can be anywhere and hidden in all sorts of structures . If you have the GPS coordinates, you can go to the precise location.
Americans have access to real live sat data and they were able to find him and drop in and grab him and get out .
Iranian planners, who lost their brothers and neighbors ( bachehaye mahal) during the 8 year because they did not have access to weapons made the right decision. We don’t have an Air Force because no one was willing to sell Iran anything . Even if we did, we could not match Israel and the US. They made the right choice to invest in missiles, drones, and a symmetric operations.
The US suffered over 2 billion dollars in losses from destruction of its aircraft.
Once you add the radars, bases, and cost of operations over the last 36 days , you are north of $50 billion dollars . Which country has given the US armed forces such a beat down since WWII? Which country has dared to defy the US and go to war and have the upper hand after 36 days ?
Today Buck Rogers saved America in a Hollywood setting with their trillion dollar defense budget . This war is far from over . Iran has the cards , and the US knows that otherwise they would not request a 48 cease fire .

If they already had the GPS coordinates of the WSO, it wouldn't have taken them 24 hours to find him and rescue him.

 

[Immortals]

tbh it was a waste, the pilot isnt going to be flying any aircraft and will probably go on disability. If I were in charge of CENTCOM I would've just left him there.

Jesus didn’t like my resurrection joke earlier and personally saved the pilot on Easter weekend.

Cant make this stuff up, out of all times for a fighter jet to be shot down….Eastern weekend

 

[Salza]

What a daring US mission to reterive the fallen solider/pilot. Expecting a hollywood movie in few years time. A bit embarrassing for Iran. Clearly when you don't have an airforce, enemy can fly their machines at will at your own skies.

Anyways similar incident may occur in the next upcoming days as US planes will keep violating Iranian airspace.

 

[SolarWarden]

Exactly. People will say this is "cope", but in the grand scheme of things this was a tactical success for the US. It wont translate into changing the strategic map, as it currently is.

Im not going to say it didnt hurt. Catching that pilot would have been a good morale boost, and added to the pressures surrounding Trump.
Instead the opposite happened.

It will indeed spawn a lot of movies in the future, but movies dont win wars at the end of the day.

*sigh*

I hope Orangeman doesn't overdo it since the war aint over for all we know I can wake up tomorrow to the news another fighter was shot down and pilot killed or this time captured.

 

[ShapurII]

How is it a success to get an F-15 shot down and then have to mount a CSAR mission for 48 hours that resulted in the loss of 1 x A-10,1 x Mq-9, 1 x C-130 = 2 x UH-60s damaged and multiple personnel injured over a country that has no Air force and No Air defences according to your Commander in Chief?

You are coping

 

[Hamartia Antidote]

I figured you MAGA shills would compare this to taking out Bin Laden

Well thanks for giving me the opportunity to mention it!

Please continue to do the same in the future!!

 

[Garcia Sea]

If even one pilot had been captured and the footage released, it would have shocked American public opinion. Allies might have also begun to distrust US military power and reconsider their subservient stance.
However, by allowing the historic rescue operation to succeed, US confidence deepened considerably, and the opportunity to create momentum toward genuine peace disappeared.
There are turning points in war, and this was one of them. IRI undoubtedly missed an opportunity to change the course of the war.
The US will learn valuable information about the negligence of Iranian ground forces and the weakness of their low-altitude defenses, and will use this information in the future.
How can they attack invading tanks with FPV when they can't attack massive transport planes that are parked and waiting, even though their approximate location is known?
It was revealed that IRI's ground forces were not ready to fight.

 

[Salza]

You are coping

The poster doesn't realize how many Iranians were killed during that resuce mission like Iranian lives doesn't matter. For him and some other folks, downing an American jet or two is the only deal.

 

[Immortals]

Trust me, if they already had the GPS coordinates of the WSO, it wouldn't have taken them 24 hours to find him and rescue him.

Technically it took around 48 hours to rescue the WSO.

And it appears that the reason it took that long was to map and get the equipment in place to stage the operation.

It was stated that the pilot place the locator becon and hid on a ridge. I’m assuming that locator beacon sends it signals to military sats flying above rather than your standard GPS tracker.

 

[Kyussis]

and worth every penny...... of which they have stop making.

I'm sure you won't mind repaying it the next time you lose an aircraft over Iran.

 

[Falcon29]

What a daring US mission to reterive the fallen solider/pilot. Expecting a hollywood movie in few years time. A bit embarrassing for Iran. Clearly when you don't have an airforce, enemy can fly their machines at will at your own skies.

Anyways similar incident may occur in the next upcoming days as US planes will keep violating Iranian airspace.

Just watch Kandahar , it's basically the plot