Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

[Salza]

Guys, I have commented earlier as well that if no deal is made US will keep violating Iranian air space and it is more likely that more US jets will be shot down so downed pilot incident may happen again 'any time'. Iran had a terrific day, two days back when they shot down 3-4 US flying objects but US compensated with a daring resuce operation for its pilots. So next time, US may not.

 

[Oldenwisdom...قول بزرگ]

Well if 2 jets fall in deserted area in middle of no where ....
Neither is anything daring or heroic , Iran coast line is 3,000 KM
If planes go down in 2km zone it's literally a tiny spot with no value

Iran has no interest to chase broken plane parts or chase 1 or 2 pilots


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Wrong movie.

This is "Tropic Thunder" encore! The director is about to put his foot on the mine and the producer is raking it in!

 

[Immortals]

What do you consider to be deep inside Iran? At approximately 124 miles inside the country, that would be deep enough to most people.

Considering there is no “front line” in this war, 124 miles inward in Zargos mountain ranges is not considered deep inside anymore than 250 miles inside New Mexico would be considered deep inside the United States.

We already knew that the border regions were hard to defend due to the numerous mountain terrain. It’s a double edge sword, those same mountain ranges that protect Iran from invaders also hurt Iran in similar ways for its own forces and defense. This has been alluded too before.

I still tip my cap to U.S. spec ops, as I said earlier they are the best in the world at raids. One of the areas that the U.S. military excels at unmatched.

But the chances Iran would get the pilot after the first 4-6 hours dropped dramatically given the remote location and needing to bring in forces from other surrounding areas. In these types of scenarios, Iran needs to be on the scene in just a few hours before spec ops can get a plan and fly out, while US chain of command is still processing.

 

[ResurgentIran2]

@Persian Gulf is right. Where the hell is Artesh and the AirForce?

Like WHY did Iran spend billions over the decades to modernize the air fleet, to build new rockets, etc. There is 0 benefit in hiding the Air Force nonstop. Like seriously let them cause some headaches at least, even if they lose 2-5 airframes per week. Every single Airforce news we read in the last 2 decades was worthless if you can not utilize it now.

Same with the Navy. Ship here, ship there, we are so awesome. MOST SHIPS WERE LOST IN PORTS!!! I simply dont get it. If you don't have the guts to fight a war, don't spend our money in worhtless projects.

Listen my friend. And to every other member that are still talking about artesh this, airforce that.
Stop analyzing this conflict based on parameters of conventional warfare.
The fact of the matter is, Iran can not in a million years win a conventional war against the US. No country in the world can. It cant even win a single tactical battle in this war.

Had Iran wasted billions on airforce and going toe to toe with the US airforce, that airforce would have been gone within a day or two. Its just that simple.
Iran is not fighting on US terms. It is fighting an assymetrical battle. A long war of attrition to bleed the enemy economically and politically. It is doing so masterfully by ballistic missiles and drones. Future historians and military analysts will look back at this war for what it was. A masterclass in strategic brilliance by the Iranian state.
Off course, it will come at a huge cost. But the future will be secured, once this war is over. Mark my words.

Iran will win this war, but not based on the metrics you intuitivily think.

 

[ustaad]

She wants to deport Trita Parsi now. This weirdo is running the whole Trump administration and deciding who should be kicked u.


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Lives up to her name

 

[Watandar]

Iranians are lacking in mobility, night vision, surveillance and rapid response. That's what made the difference here.

But this incident can also serve as a valuable learning lesson because it is a good preview of upcoming ground Ops planned by Trump. The US is going to seize places inside Iran and then setup a perimeter around it where any Iranian present is going to be mercilessly killed. The US is then going to demand Iran capitulate (let's not believe the negotiations nonsense). So now Iranian planners need to figure out how to counter it.

These upcoming US ground ops are also going to be quite difficult and costly, so how can they be disrupted ? Another point to ponder. It's going to be a real physical and mental battle.

 

[hasn2009]

According to Raptor, they will first send in a battalion to establish a perimeter then bring in equipment to build housing and start excavating for the HEU.

Better way would be to bomb some of the local villages to freedom so the local people after seeing their family sacrificing their lives for freedom, agrees to help US in retrieving the uranium.

 

[Olympus81]

According to Raptor, they will first send in a battalion to establish a perimeter then bring in equipment to build housing and start excavating for the HEU.

Not sure if this is a sarcastic comment. But correct me here, are the Iranians dumb to store all the HEU in one place?

 

[SolarWarden]

According to Raptor, they will first send in a battalion to establish a perimeter then bring in equipment to build housing and start excavating for the HEU.

yeah........ that's asking a lot.

 

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[Oldenwisdom...قول بزرگ]

This man is certified autistic

And keep him, right?... so he can enlist the rest of American kids to die for Randy's avatar in zion!!! Why doesn't Randy leave so the rest can just live their lives?

He thinks he owns his electorate... and as long as they let he'll keep sending them to their death for zion!!!

 

[ustaad]

Guys, I have commented earlier as well that if no deal is made US will keep violating Iranian air space and it is more likely that more US jets will be shot down so downed pilot incident may happen again 'any time'. Iran had a terrific day, two days back when they shot down 3-4 US flying objects but US compensated with a daring resuce operation for its pilots. So next time, US may not.

Did they rescue the 2nd pilot or is he still missing?

 

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[KAL-EL]

You are coping

Lots of that going around.

 

[Viet]

Actually, if the Trump administration will deploy ground troops to Iran, this rescue mission definitely thought the Iranian military leaders where they have shortcomings.

It is very likely that the Iranian military leaders will provide shoulder-fired SAMs to their Basij forces. And equipping the local forces with MANPADs will definitely make future SAR operations much more difficult.

The US will need 500,000 minimum for the invasion so that’s an unrealistic scenario. Those 5,000 Marines something would occupy strategic points in Iran, but that’s still weeks or months away. Iran still has thousands of missiles, and drones. Every ground invasion is suicide.