Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

[Zoyou]

 

[Optical216]

Yeah, something not feeling right here. Iran has wound him up so much he is reduced to this.

My feeling is

1) Running out of actual options and resorting to threats he cannot carry out
2) That rescue op was a much bigger disaster then we are being told
3) possibly now real push back inside US Military after he chopped several generals and equipment losses are piling up at a rapid rate

Something feels very odd, especially as the US is supposedly "winning"....

actually i would replace #3 what u said with personnel losses it is reported that iran drone struck alot of Mess halls in the gulf bases where us personnel were. they mustve struck them hard.

 

[ShapurII]

i am believe this is so farmer can move his tractors and equipment easily if he has or for agricultural aircraft

Also this contradicts the Mud story

What sort of aircraft used this runway? Do we know that?

I mean it has to be a wide road with good asphalt, no?

 

[Cicero]

Im fine with the outcome

200+ soldiers used in the raid
12+ aircraft used in the raid

US Lost:
2 C-130
2 MH-6
At least 1 MQ-9

All for one injured pilot

If Iran had captured the pilot then I would have to hear Trump say: “if iran doesn’t release the pilot in 48 hours, I will nuke Tehran” every few days.

At this point how do they plan on doing the Isfahan raid if they waste this much resources on 1 pilot?

The problem is it highlighted the ability of the U.S to operate deep in Iranian territory and even use a forwarding base. Also highlighted Iran's inability to mount a response with conventional forces.

 

[Optical216]

What sort of aircraft used this runway? Do we know that?

I mean it has to be a wide road with good asphalt, no?

it is for agricultural spray aircraft. i think they can run on these simple runways


This does not look like a FARP

 

[Yasser76]

actually i would replace #3 what u said with personnel losses it is reported that iran drone struck alot of Mess halls in the gulf bases where us personnel were. they mustve struck them hard.

Quite possible. Can add that too.

My feeling is something is not quite right, either in the White House or Pentagon and we may soon find out what that is....

 

[Optical216]

The problem is it highlighted the ability of the U.S to operate deep in Iranian territory and even use a forwarding base. Also highlighted Iran's inability to mount a response with conventional forces.

nope. They did not use forwarding base but an agricultural strip of land. its geolocated


We do not know the level of us casualties. remmeber the e3 was "damaged"

 

[LOKI]

To Persian Gulf
I am also very angry for not capturing the pilot but look at this.We managed to shoot down one F15 one a10 two Hercules ,destroyed one chinook in kuwait and damage two cobras in less than 36 hours.Not bad at ali.

 

[Optical216]

Quite possible. Can add that too.

My feeling is something is not quite right, either in the White House or Pentagon and we may soon find out what that is....

something must have happened which is giving mr drumpf pain.

 

[Optical216]

To Persian Gulf
I am also very angry for not capturing the pilot but look at this.We managed to shoot down one F15 one a10 two Hercules ,destroyed one chinook in kuwait and damage two cobras in less than 36 hours.Not bad at ali.

also u indirectly or directly got a c130 and Mh6

 

[ustaad]

WHAT? LOOOOL .. he sems like he lost faith in his god and now he thinks of islam

Iranian missiles updated his software

 

[Eşbah]

A country's territorial waters fall under its jurisdiction. If you claim otherwise, prove it.


Binding and enforceable are different things. There is no court to open a case against Iran for not abiding by some CIL rule that is even debatable at best.


Iran has many incentives to keep oil prices high and prevent vital goods from passing through our territorial waters.


Not only energy price shock. There are many other types of goods that pass through the Strait of Hormuz including fertilizers and other stuff.

You are contradicting yourself with certain statements, and it looks like you do not fully understand the reasoning behind the closure and what the consequences of the attacks on Arab oil infrastructure mean for global energy and economy dynamics.

However, the actions of the IRGC clearly indicate that they will pursue a course that aligns more closely with my interpretation of the facts.

However, it doesn't really matter. It's a war and emotions are high.

Let's agree to disagree.

 

[Indos]

i am believe this is so farmer can move his tractors and equipment easily if he has or for agricultural aircraft

Also this contradicts the Mud story

US uses C295, derrivative of CN235 for getting the troops out of Iran. It doesnt need aspalt runway, as long as the land is solid so the plane can land and take off.

CN235 is also likely used as US AirForce Special Force has several unit of the planes and has been used in Maduro captured operation.

Both plane can land and take off with no aspalt runway exist

 

[BigMela2onin]

Also highlighted Iran's inability to mount a response with conventional forces.

This was not a conventional force. They carried out an operation against armed civilians and police to enter and leave quickly, this does not translate to holding territory.

 

[Optical216]

US uses C295, derrivative of CN235 for getting the troops out of Iran. It doesnt need aspalt runway, as long as the land is solid so the plane can land and take off

so indeed they used the land of some farmer or collective to perform such task, i have to say it is cheeky thinking



But saving 1 airman(while very honorable indeed even if hes a terr*rist) is still not really making up for the losses of upto 8-9 aircrafts.

If trump does his ground invasion i tell u that the iranian forces will spend all their resources (they didnt here because they probably thouight the pilot was dead) to make sure US feels a great loss

A raid like this wont work possibly in esfahan . Iran will send forces 100% what US faced here is just irregular poor militiamen who did this much damage. Imagine what iranian military with their cell like command structure armed with kamikazes and fpv can do.


Delta is very good very amazing force, but this was a PR media operation so drumpf does not look stupid saying iran defences collapsed.