Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

So in order to sum up
- a SaR attempt was made by the U.S.
- the missing pilot was either repatriated or still missing
- several U.S. aircrafts downed as a result
- probably several U.S. grunts KIA as well

Not a bad result for Iran. Not the top of the top, but hey, who gains flawless victories in war ?
India does in Bollywood movies.
 
I have decided to give it another 24 hours before judging the situation.

Even if the US had one killed in action, that would render the whole operation a total failure because they rescued two pilots that would've become POWs with a dead soldier!

Of course, this won't make our poor performance any better, but it will change the outcome of the US operation drastically different.
But Mr.President we are winning so much,we don't know what to do about it! We're not used to winning! Before you came,we kept losing!
 
To Persian Gulf
I am also very angry for not capturing the pilot but look at this.We managed to shoot down one F15 one a10 two Hercules ,destroyed one chinook in kuwait and damage two cobras in less than 36 hours.Not bad at ali.

This is the Tally so far.

1 x F15E
2 x A10 ( one crashed in the Persian Gulf, the other in Iraq )
1 x F16CJ - possible - damage and crash while returning from Iran.
2 X C130's – destroyed on the ground.
2 x Black Hawks damaged.
4 x MH-6 Little Birds
2 x MQ-9s Reaper
- unspecified injuries of Spec Ops personnel.
 
That's my point their was no conventional force more than 24 hours after a plane was shot down. It questions the ability of Iran of being able to organize and transport forces effectively. I think the reality is that any operation in Karg island, the coast or uranium extract once again the only effective military response will be missiles and drones, which is not enough.
I still haven't seen a convincing argument on why capturing this pilot was important or worth expending lives and resources for. We know they targeted all "military age males" and have full air cover, so I assume the people who are mad Iran didn't send troops out to get bombed just want to see Iranians killed for no reason, which you might since all you do on here is post negative news.
And as I have said multiple times, this is a guerilla war. The strategy should be striking and slowly attriting any bases or footholds enemy troops manage to get from a distance while avoiding open warfare in which we are massively disadvantaged. Ground forces should be used to defend launch bases and population centers. The goal should be to continue disrupting sea traffic and enemy infrastructure while maintaining launch capability. If you are throwing thousands of men away to contest land that ultimately doesn't benefit the war effort, then that is simply bad, short-sighted strategy. They will take Kharg if they really try to, but they will then have to hold it and it will not stop drone or missile launches against energy fields in the PGCC.
 
Quite possible. Can add that too.

My feeling is something is not quite right, either in the White House or Pentagon and we may soon find out what that is....

His rant makes it look like Iran is ignoring him and he really does not know what to do. Thus he's acting louder and crazier, in hopes that Iran will become scared of his mental instability.

Coz let's consider it .. he will commit a bunch of warcrimes and Iran will decimate energy supplies and all gloves will be off for israel. There is nothing sound in Trump's threats, unless he's gone really insane.

Nobody talks like this, otherwise.
 
This is the Tally so far.

1 x F15E
2 x A10 ( one crashed in the Persian Gulf, the other in Iraq )
1 x F16CJ - possible - damage and crash while returning from Iran.
2 X C130's – destroyed on the ground.
2 x Black Hawks damaged.
4 x MH-6 Little Birds
2 x MQ-9s Reaper
- unspecified injuries of Spec Ops personnel.

Yeah, be good to get a total tally so far actually.

The E-3s, KC-135s, Compass Call C-130s, a Chinook, the 3 F-15Es.

People here do not realise, the rate at which US aircraft losses its astonishing. Much higher then anything since Vietnam, and again, much of it unreplaceable.

Take out F-35s that are being produced en mass, this goes on for another 4 weeks at the same rate, then US will have to downsize squadrons and wings.....
 
His rant makes it look like Iran is ignoring him and he really does not know what to do. Thus he's acting louder and crazier, especially considering the words he's using for Iran, in hopes Iran will become scared of his mental instability.

Coz let's consider it .. he will commit a bunch of warcrimes and Iran will decimate energy supplies and all gloves will be off for israel. There is nothing sound in Trump's threats, unless he's gone really insane.

Nobody talks like this, otherwise.

Yeah, the language really is unprecedented....
 
This rescue op shows one thing. As long as US is able to provide close air support, it'll be very difficult for the IRGC or any other paramilitary to stop Americans from coming in and meeting their objectives. We tend to underestimate some of these systems. Some of these use thermal imaging to target and fire rockets/missiles at ground forces. I presume there would've been quite a few casualties on the side of Iran, on their search parties.
 
Well now they're going to make J3w movie about this pilot bedding a Muslim Iranian women, saving her from the evil ISLAMIC culture and bringing her back on the same rescue mission. I've come to understand almost all of their war movies post 9/11 has been nothing refined propaganda with a heavy dose of Anti-Islamic in them. This will be no different.

In other news, UAE hired an Israeli hit squad that performed missions in Yemen. There's a lawsuit from the victims going on right now

 

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