Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

[Immortals]

What happened to the Israeli Navy Vessel Hezbollah claimed to hit ?

Two possibilities:

1) it was targeted and strike was not successful

2) it was hit and the event is being censored

But id be suprised if HZ didn’t record such an operation. It did in 2006. So I’m leaning towards #1

 

[Shags101]

Well now you know why Trump is tempted to do a land invasion.

There’s a difference between trying to find a solider in that are it’s not worth the propaganda points versus lying in wait to do hit and run attacks on a large moving military force it will be like Iraq and Afghanistan times 5

 

[maverick]

A secret Pakistani investigation of the operation, leaked to Al Jazeera, concludes that the operation was a “great humiliation” for Pakistan, the worst since the 1971 war with India. The U.S. had carried out a “hostile military mission deep inside Pakistan” without informing Islamabad, and the Pakistani security establishment had no idea bin Laden was hiding in Abbottabad, or in fact anywhere in Pakistan.

Pakistan’s Osama bin Laden Report: Was Pakistan Clueless or Complicit in Harboring Bin Laden? | Brookings

Bruce Riedel analyzes Pakistan’s secret report investigating the May 2011 U.S. operation that resulted in the death of Osama bin Laden in Abbottabad. While the report fails to confirm ISI complicity in harboring the al Qaeda leader, the investigation rightfully concludes that Pakistan’s...

www.brookings.edu

To avoid backlash, Both parties agreed that official narrative will be different, that Pakistan was not aware of the raid. There is ample info outside that points finger to the contrary. Here is one example and i have multiple other venues... anyways this thread is not for debate, lets talk on a different one.

Pakistan kept bin Laden as prisoner: US journalist

Pakistani officials not only knew about Osama bin Laden's location, they also kept him as a prisoner, according to a new exposé by US investigative journalist Seymour M. Hersh. DW examines his claims.

www.dw.com

 

[Falcon29]

Trump to Axios: The Iranian army shot down an F-15 using a shoulder-fired missile, out of pure luck

 

[Hamartia Antidote]

So what runway did the rescue planes use to extract the others?

I think they all left in helicopters with other C130's refueling them in the air.

 

[Falcon29]

Urgent | Israeli Broadcasting Authority: Fears of people trapped under the rubble following a rocket strike from #Iran on a building in Haifa

 

[Shags101]

It doesn’t appear Iran ever even sent professional ground units likely due to fog of war or the fear it was a diversion to get iran to commit forces in order for the enemy to actually attack Isfahan.

Instead they had militiamen and Basij handle it.

Not worth propaganda points as I said but it’s over on to the next thing

 

[Metal 0-1]

They came for 1 pilot. ۔and lost 8 aircraft’s that’s a very costly rescue operation.

Well US CSAR community have motto; "That others may live"..

Not the first time they put so much at stakes to get one guy out

 

[sharreman10]

 

[Master Chief]

why Allah just means God in arabic?

Yes. But Trump is being sarcastic.

Not that it should bother anyone. Indeed, every time he has a little psychological dig, it should be seen as a badge of honour for us.

He has gone full Caligula.

 

[Falcon29]

Why is Hamas calling on Hezbollah to capture soldiers

Leave them bro it's not something integral to their current strategy
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Abu Obaidah: We renew our call to the heroes of the Lebanese resistance to turn engagement with the enemy into a real opportunity to capture Zionist soldiers.

 

[Ali_Baba]

I put an order in last week... I see what the problem is...
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Lets hope they don't send you a box of Maxipads instead ? lol.

 

[Shags101]

It doesn’t appear Iran ever even sent professional ground units likely due to fog of war or the fear it was a diversion to get iran to commit forces in order for the enemy to actually attack Isfahan.

Instead they had militiamen and Basij handle it.

So basically I am that guy so he was live I was right and you were wrong….:……I had to

Even Trump admitted he is severely injured. My initial theory that he was dead wasn’t that far of.

I don’t think we have the full story and he still may pass away.

ok his family gets the movie rights but it’s whatever honestly it would have been more for theatrics if they had caught him take f 15 all day lokg

 

[Falcon29]

Urgent | Abu Obaida: Beware of fragmentation and preoccupation with side battles in our region while they strike at the strongholds of our one unified Ummah

 

[Immortals]

Most likely planes and helis were imoperable/damged enough not fly due to recieving AAA bullets or mampads and then they burn/target them to avoid into getting into enemy hands/PR saving.

AAA? Batteries?

No it wasn’t hit with AA, maybe small arms, but even that I doubt did much anything because it was the middle of the night and tribal and police forces don’t have night vision goggles in such location.

One side came prepared with hundreds of spec ops and dozens of aircraft. The other side had nearby militiamen with assault rifles and nomads with hunting rifles.

There wasn’t even a firefight the U.S. side is now reporting after saying their was “intense” firefights. It appears from a video last night, 9 Basij or militiamen died firing on planes, likely taken out by a drone strike or helicopter fire.