Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

It is all a word game. “Malfunction “
“had to destroy two of their own air craft “ There are a lot of very expensive air craft that keep malfunctioning. Translation = they were shot down.
This had to be the most expensive PR save facing / rescue operation in history. The loss of almost $500 million dollars in aircrafts.

How can they all be "shot down" to this degree of absolute disintegration and somehow fall in the same place?

I maintain that this is the scene of deliberate torching of assets. They may have be lightly damaged by small arms and/or unable to take off for a variety of reasons.

It is actually very routine practice to bomb one's own assets if they are behind enemy lines and no longer operable. It's done with ships too.
 
If in this operation even 1 C-130 was hit by a manpad or two, it could have lead to the loss of dozens of soldiers and basically ended President Trumps presidency from a legacy standpoint.

President Trump's rule only ends when he is Impeached. And that's a remote possibility from the upcoming midterm elections. I don't believe the guy can be the 'lame duck' as people say. He has been using Executive Powers all the time and when those get challenged by the Courts, he finds ways around them using more such powers. On very rare occasions when he backpaddled were due to the outrages over the ICE raids in Minneapolis.
And by know, even he must know about his 'legacy': Tattered when he ventured into this Netanyahu war. Forget about the Nobel Prize. Forget about 'I stopped X number of wars'. Going forward, he wants to appear a victor in the Iran war and to avoid any Impeachment. That's it.
 
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What did I wake up to


﴿ أَفَغَيْرَ دِينِ اللَّهِ يَبْغُونَ وَلَهُ أَسْلَمَ مَن فِي السَّمَاوَاتِ وَالْأَرْضِ طَوْعًا وَكَرْهًا وَإِلَيْهِ يُرْجَعُونَ﴾
[ آل عمران: 83]

سورة : آل عمران - Al Imran - الجزء : ( 3 ) - الصفحة: ( 60 )

Do they seek other than the religion of Allah (the true Islamic Monotheism worshipping none but Allah Alone), while to Him submitted all creatures in the heavens and the earth, willingly or unwillingly. And to Him shall they all be returned.
 
What happened to the Israeli Navy Vessel Hezbollah claimed to hit ?
 
How can they all be "shot down" to this degree of absolute disintegration and somehow fall in the same place?

I maintain that this is the scene of deliberate torching of assets. They may have be lightly damaged by small arms and/or unable to take off for a variety of reasons.

It is actually very routine practice to bomb one's own assets if they are behind enemy lines and no longer operable. It's done with ships too.
Most likely planes and helis were imoperable/damged enough not fly due to recieving AAA bullets or mampads and then they burn/target them to avoid into getting into enemy hands/PR saving.
 
If the report turns out to be true of US blowing up two C130s, the operation in material terms cant be really be considered much of a success. Thats several millions of loss in equipment. To save one crew member.

But for the US and for Trump specifically, the symbolism and propaganda victory of this operation makes up for those material losses.
Operational success is measured by objective achievement, not by cost incurred.
 
It's indeed posted on TS. Frankly, I am not happy. It was an unnecessary comment.
We in Iran are happy about it though 😆

I haven't been able to ridicule the US this much in a long time.
Last time I did, it was about this one:

 
President Trump's rule only ends when he is Impeached. And that's a remote possibility from the upcoming midterm elections.

He will never be fully impeached. It’s impossible with the way the checks and balances is set up. Republicans will never go for it.

Barring a massive turnaround in this war (ie its immediate end), republicans will lose control of Congress and maybe even the senate in a clean sweep at this rate.

Depending on how damaging the rest of Trumps term goes, they will lose the presidency as well.

Then we will get 8 years of democrat president trying to do damage control. Then people will be pissed off at Dems for the decaying rate of the empire and bring back republicans who will promise to fix everything. This whole cycle then rinses and repeats forever.
 
Yes, they “burned” a lot of cards on this operation. While Iran would have loved to have the propaganda value of having 2 soldiers, it’s better for Iran to learn these ground war lessons now then on a much more critical operation.

EXACTLY, a lot of operational intelligence gained here. Also a lot of preexisting intelligence assessments validated.

Kuwait & Bahrain must Fall.
 

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