Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

[Immortals]

There is no chance for a deal because this bird brain administration keeps offering terrible concessions in exchange for major Iranian overtures. Any other non-Mossad controlled U.S. president would be negotiating much more realistically like Obama or Reagan did.

 

[ToddE]

Nobody in this world predicted what we are seeing, IRGC was supposed to have been crushed along with IRI within a week. We are in 6th week now and IRI in the entire war never lost control of strategic escalation ladder which matters most, never got suppressed or deterred, kept tit-for tat strikes going on ... remember they are fighting the toughest possible military alliance of 12 countries led by first world hyper power and a great power that controls the global politics and finances.

I am preparing a war report I will post here and on my social like I did for 12 day war, it will be long but will cover everything.

One of the biggest victory along with military victories of IRGC is that they never for a single hour allowed the enemy to touch Iranian economy (through tit-for-tat deterrence). IRI is still selling oil at around ~2 MBPD since the war started while choking the rest. The greater the differential against PGCC, the better the IRI will be in position to dominate the market post war.

 

[hussain0216]

Asked if he is concerned the people of Iran, a country of 93 million people, could suffer if civilian infrastructure is hit, Trump said:

No, they want us to do it.

• WSJ

This is what happens when you have a deluded diaspora, spreading bullshit propaganda that others then believe

 

[Shags101]

I believe Israil will hit what they are saying. I am not sure about the outcome, iran can inflict the same damage on PGCC using SRBMs and Drones but delivering the same level blow to israil is questionable not because of will but because of capability.

MRBMs have CEP issues, Standoff munition or guided bombs are required for pinpoint accuracy which can be delivered by Jets/Bombers.

Everyday the war goes longer the missiles get direct hits even if several days only 1 out 5 or even 10 hit directly only thing Iran needs to do is make sure they don’t stop no matter what

 

[Meengla]

Spot on in a few aspects. Like the Americans knew the whereabouts of the pilot.
But surprisingly, the USA sent an armada. Thus, if the Iranians didn't know early, they surely knew when the armada arrived. Is that the reason why the USA lost so many assets? Surely, it is something to ponder.

The guy you quoted is spot on about the advantage the rescuers had vs the Iranians. I believe the Iranians must have known the general location of the airman and were there to try to neutralize any rescue team. That explains the successful rescue and the considerable loss of the American assets.
PS. Yesterday I had mentioned to @Persian Gulf that the airman was probably alive given all the resources to try to rescue him. I had said that either the Iranians are whisking him away far from the location or the airman was hiding in some 'ravine' using tracking devices to be rescued. Well he turned out hiding in a 'crevice' but I wasn't far off!

 

[Aad80]

1 x MQ-9
1 x F-16CJ damaged/emergency
1 x KC-135 damaged/emergency
1 x F-15E
2 x C-130
2 x A-10
2 x MH-60
4 x MH-6

500+ Million USD, all within 48 hours for One Pilot Vs Tough Luri/Bakhtiari tribesmen ....

Waiting for it to happen again n again.

It was a failed operation to extract the enriched uranium from Isfahan nuclear facility.

 

[Gripen9]

35 miles on foot to and 35 miles back, carrying the injured pilot while under fire is too far fetched for me. They didn't use a helicopter?

 

[Bharatah]

ATTENTION : The skull of a deceased American crew member was allegedly found among the wreckage of one of the C-130s

 

[Immortals]

SUSPICIOUS: 200 special forces on 2 C-130 planes each carrying 2 little birds. Where did the soldiers sit?

The math ain’t mathing. There was more aircraft in the area or they are lying about the troop count to embellish the story.

Also why would you send 200 soldiers for 1 pilot when a smaller foot print is harder to detect?

 

[Hamartia Antidote]

Yeah but they aren't running around in stealth mode using their afterburners.


no big flame while cruising along.

Not this

 

[lightning f57]

Not confirmed officially but it can totally happen.

Post war, I see atleast two of the PG countries siding with IRI in their security setup.

Iraq, Oman?

Professor Marandi mentioned he heard unofficially something similar but didn't include Oman in that list of 2.

 

[UndercoverJIX]

don't be surprised if Trump now authorises commando raids into IRGC-ASF SSM bases. if they can send hundreds of special forces 40km south of Esfahan without being detected for hours, they can already reach dozens of SSM bases easily.

Respectfully, for me it does not matter if they came inside 40 KM or 200KM, we know Iranian capabilities.

Concerning part is, Iran had 40 plus hours to prepare an ambush. We knew the area of lets say 5 to 20/50KM will be a target for rescure op, let them come and do the necessry.
One Pilot was rescued, and whole world knew hunt for second one is on, beeing a missile country setting ambush on barren land of even 100KM radius should not have been a problem.

If the WILL to kill invading terrorists on your own land was there.

on the other side for USA, no matter what and how high the cost and loss of assets was, this was a RESCUE Operation behind enemy lines and they were successful.
Mission accomplished.

 

[ToddE]

$300 million

1 x MQ-9 ($29M)
1 x F-16CJ ($20M)
1 x KC-135 ($40M)
1 x F-15E ($31M)
2 x C-130 ($76M)
2 x A-10 ($19M)
2 x MH-60 ($59M)
4 x MH-6 ($50M)

Estimated total: $627 M.

All from US official listings.

 

[rishi7887]

Fat sheikh probably thought he would harbor US-Israel on open bases on his soil and IRI would just take it.

But there is a bigger fish to catch here ... jet fuel ... Kuwaiti deletion by IRGC would cause a HUGE problem.

IRGC planners are turning out to be much more cunning and strategic than USSR ever was.

This is because Persians have along history of winning battles through superior tactics against formidable foes. If you like Roman history then you'll be fascinated with how the Persians fought and defeated them

 

[Shags101]

Turning to the case of the weapons system officer, Trump, as quoted by Ravid on Channel 12, said that the crewman gave a short, unusual message over his radio after ejecting from the aircraft. “He said: ‘God is good.’ We suspected that maybe the Iranians had captured him, because that sounded like something a Muslim would say.”

Man and this is the guy Arab “leaders” are following seriously these guys just need to stop pretending to have integrity I mean he’s a racist and seriously bigoted he has no moral compass really disgusting