Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

[ShapurII]

Israel destroyed 85% of our petrochemical exports today! And they struck a power plant in Shiraz. If Iran doesn't reciprocate this, we have lost this war.

We must have obliterated Haifa and Ashdod oil refineries long time ago. Not just lightly damage them, but obliterate them. Fire 10 missiles at each, instead of firing one or two missiles every several hours at different targets.

Iran's performance since Week 5 has been weak and pathetic. Iran is returning to its period of "strategic patience" again.

 

[Aggregate]

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No problem I think. He will be transfered to Stargate program and made part of SG-1, or maybe even transfered to permetheous to send him to pegasus galaxy.

That pilot even had flashbacks of his Crash when he was trying to re-assemble the SG1 team. I think your story fully adds up to Cameron Mitchell at this point

 

[Immortals]

 

[RealNapster]

That pilot even had flashbacks of his Crash when he was trying to re-assemble the SG1 team. I think your story fully adds up to Cameron Mitchell at this point

You got it bro.

 

[Immortals]

Another Predator drone shot down around Isfahan, 2-4 have been shot down in 24 hours

 

[Immortals]

Israel destroyed 85% of our petrochemical exports today! And they struck a power plant in Shiraz. If Iran doesn't reciprocate this, we have lost this war.

We must have obliterated Haifa and Ashdod oil refineries long time ago. Not just lightly damage them, but obliterate them. Fire 10 missiles at each, instead of firing one or two missiles every several hours at different targets.

Iran's performance since Week 5 has been weak and pathetic. Iran is returning to its period of "strategic patience" again.

There is some censorship going on in Israel:

 

[koolio]

Seems like all this talk of a possible ceasefire is fake smokescreen.

 

[Immortals]

Even Most Americans realize the U.S. government has no plan in this war

 

[BigMela2onin]

Attack on Pars was the usual jew ceasefire sabotage. Ironically, the would have benefitted more from a ceasefire here.

 

[SABRE]

Even Most Americans realize the U.S. government has no plan in this war

Over 33% believe he has a clear plan. This may not be the majority, but it's still a substantial number.

 

[Watandar]

Two facts must be confirmed:
In a few years, pipelines bypassing the Hormuz will be built in every GCC, rendering the blockade of the Hormuz an unusable card.
In a few years, US production of interceptor and cruise missiles will increase several times over, making it impossible for Iran to resist.
Therefore, a ceasefire now would certainly lead to Iran's demise within the next two to three years.
If Iran lacks the plan and courage to develop nuclear weapons after a ceasefire, then continuing the war is the only logical conclusion.

You are right that many pipelines will be built to bypass the SoH but pipelines are vulnerable and fragile. They can be disrupted at thousands of points. So it's not a silver bullet for GCC.

 

[ShapurII]

There is some censorship going on in Israel:

Yes, but they still have jet fuel for their air force and gasoline for their cars! So, we haven't rendered Haifa and Ashdod fully inoperable yet.

I mean look at what Israel and the US do to our civilian infrastructure. They used 9 cruise missiles on the B-1 bridge, a small target! I don't know what type of missiles they used, but if we assume they used Tomahawk missiles and each missile carries a 450 kilogram warhead, that's like using a 4,000 kilogram warhead for one bridge!

Sure, we're using ballistic missiles which has a lot more kinetic energy, but we never aim for total annihilation, I think. And that's the issue with us. We need to cripple their key industries if the war switches to targeting the civilian infrastructure of Iran.

So, maybe it's better to focus on the complete annihilation of four or five key infrastructures in Israel instead of lightly damaging 40-50 different places.

 

[Optical216]

Yes, but they still have jet fuel for their air force and gasoline for their cars! So, we haven't rendered Haifa and Ashdod fully inoperable yet.

I mean look at what Israel and the US do to our civilian infrastructure. They used 9 cruise missiles on the B-1 bridge, a small target! I don't know what type of missiles they used, but if we assume they used Tomahawk missiles and each missile carries a 450 kilogram warhead, that's like using a 4,000 kilogram warhead for one bridge!

Sure, we're using ballistic missiles which has a lot more kinetic energy, but we never aim for total annihilation, I think. And that's the issue with us.

So, maybe it's better to focus on the complete annihilation of four or five key infrastructures in Israel instead of lightly damaging 40-50 different places.

irgc needs to man up more! i can still sense they are holding back in fear of escalation!

 

[Immortals]

Yes, but they still have jet fuel for their air force and gasoline for their cars! So, we haven't rendered Haifa and Ashdod fully inoperable yet.

I mean look at what Israel and the US do to our civilian infrastructure. They used 9 cruise missiles on the B-1 bridge, a small target! I don't know what type of missiles they used, but if we assume they used Tomahawk missiles and each missile carries a 450 kilogram warhead, that's like using a 4,000 kilogram warhead for one bridge!

Sure, we're using ballistic missiles which has a lot more kinetic energy, but we never aim for total annihilation, I think. And that's the issue with us.

So, maybe it's better to focus on the complete annihilation of four or five key infrastructures in Israel instead of lightly damaging 40-50 different places.

Again, a problem of this war is Iran never invested in a expensive - but critically important weapons platform that could reliably hit HVT targets of Israel.

These rumored “super” weapons that IRGC liked to brag about haven’t materialized.

Iran can only rely on slow drones or BMs with varying degrees of accuracy for this job. However, if they had invested in either a true HGV hypersonic or some type of supersonic suicide drone with a very low observable cross section, that while not built in thousands was built in a couple hundred, it could reliably strike more economic assets of Israel.

The issue for Iran is Israel is 2000KM and it doesn’t have the ability to fly to Syria and lob ALBM at Israel like IAF can do to Iran.

 

[Flotilla]

Another point of Trump being removed from office is if Iran also blocks the southern Red Sea and Gulf of Aden, especially the Bab el-Mandeb Strait through its Houthi proxy forces.

Imagine the catastrophic effect this will have on the entire world.

I agree that Irán alone cannot fire Trump from his position. But Congress could do it Irán escalates a bit more.

This idea you cited it is also very good. And it is not necessary to be something traumatic or exposed like a Iranian victory.

Maybe Irán can deal with someone of the US Congress and in exchange of Trump´s removal sign a treaty directly with the Congress. Someone more pragmatical should replace Trump´s. Rubio was against this war and his tone has been much less bombastic than Trump´s or Mad Pete´s ones.

But signing a deal it is a trap. Trump will break it with the support of Netanyahu.