Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds


And yet Iran is doing non-effective attacks on Israeli petrochemical industry.

This is why I said that a non-nuclear state cannot fight with a nuclear state.
Based on what Israel has done to Iran so far, Iran must've attacked Israeli desalination plants and refineries long time ago. I'm not talking about symbol attacks, but real annihilation of them.
 
... If iran can hold out only they know, and if they can for a prolonged period their hand will be further strengthened. ...
After eight-years of war with Iraq, Iran did become a regional power.

While the GCC prospered economically for decades, Iranians suffered for decades.

After this war, Iran will not only need to replenish it's military, but also rebuild it's air force, navy as well as all the civilian infrastructure that has been destroyed so far.

So, no war is always better than going to war.
 
After eight-years of war with Iraq, Iran did become a regional power.

While the GCC prospered economically for decades, Iranians suffered for decades.

After this war, Iran will not only need to replenish it's military, but also rebuild it's air force, navy as well as all the civilian infrastructure that has been destroyed so far.

So, no war is always better than going to war.
Iran became a regional power after the Iraq-Iran war because we didn't accept an early ceasefire. We fought it to the end and the world accepted that they had to coexist with us.

A lot of countries in the world, particularly Arabs of the Persian Gulf, the United States and the Soviet Union and the Europeans wanted the Iranian 1979 revolution to fail. The Iraq-Iran war forced them to accept the revolution in Iran.
 
I don't know why Pakistan is still pushing iran for ceasefire where there is no strong guarantees from USA/Israel side ? Also, the temporary ceasefire also do not include Gaza and Lebanon so what good will it bring ?

But then I also know that Pakistan do not want to see a destroyed and destabilized Iran because it's bad for Pakistan as well as Iranians. So Pakistan will want to avoid this anyway possible even if it means partially compromising on Iranian position.
 
Anything temporary is a trap. Anything less than US commitment to leave is a trap.

The vessels clearing the gulf takeaway existing leverage. A vessel must not exit without another entering. Clearance of vessels at a certain point by Iranian or perhaps even Omani/Iranian joint customs mechanism that makes sure that these are not being used for aggression against the regional states. A visible and verifiable drawdown of US/Israeli posture to a distance and an eye on preventing future build up(critical mass) at stand off ranges for offensive purposes.

There is no TRUST! There cannot be anything less...
And, what has happened already ensures there wouldn't be any trust in the future. Things must be manifest and indubitable!
This conflict will not end unless one party completely gives up. Iran - Arab - Israeli co-existence in middle east from here on is simply not an option.
So everything is trap.war is the only long term solution.
 

Yvette Cooper is a thoroughbred thoroughbred hard core Zionist who wants the UK to be fighting Iran alongside Israel and the USA. David Lammy has had his political career funded by "Zionists" and is their whipping boy and we have a Prime Minister who is married to a Jew and a self declared Zionist.

It pains all three, that the Labour Party is very very much against this war, and that they know if they do any more than they are now, they will be toast politically.

No wonder they are not happy...
 

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