Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

[Pakistani Dragon]

They say this every week

Yes, and they keep dropping larger ordinance on Iran every time.

The US military said from onset that the intense phase of the military campaign would last 4-6 weeks (28-42 days). We are now on day 38 and in the final phase of the war.

In the final phase, everything is treated as a legitimate target.

 

[Immortals]

Explains why they quickly tried to save the pilot first before the WSO. His health was rapidly deteriorating.

 

[Bharatah]

Fake news, he was killed in combat. They're spreading rumors that the soldier committed suicide, died in an accident, from a concussion, COVID, etc. All to hide the military defeat.

 

[Blain2]

Explains why they quickly tried to save the pilot first before the WSO. His health was rapidly deteriorating.

The pilot being referred to here is the WSO.

 

[Blain2]

Hegseth is always onboard when he does not have to do the fighting.

 

[kobra]

I don't know, man, the capture of RAW agent Kulbhushan Jadhav, other RAW agents working inside Iran in different guises, and the bombing of BLA houses by PAF inside Iranian territory says we are definitely not imagining things. KSA-Pakistan relations have been largely inconsequential or of minimal impact for Iran in terms of broad national security, which cannot be said for the impact of Iran-India relations on Pakistan's security, even if it is unintentional from the Iranian side.

We have not had stable relations with India, with or without Modi. He is vastly inconsequential as far as stability is concerned, rather he is an absolute destabiliser. Stability for India and Pakistan means remaining in a perpetual state of hostility, otherwise called no war, no peace.

Sadly you are right! But I heard that Iranians did help us out in Kalbhusan Yadav case, and if i remember correctly Iran Most wanted terroris Abdul Malik Regi was captured and he possessed our NiC using karachi quaidabad as his address.

mistrust is mutual. Iran is friendly with India which is our enemy. we are friendly and were strategic partner with US, who is Iran's arch enemy. Then comes the curious case of GCC ass kissing Monarchs.

We didnot complete our end of pipeline due to out financial obligations, iran did at their side. Sectarian issues are there as well as they tried to export their revolution here, also thousands of shias were killed by our then good boys.

Its a very complicated situationship lol.

 

[BigMela2onin]

In a sense he's right, Iranians do want freedom from white and jewish genocidal terror and are willing to lose infrastructure to get it.

 

[Falcon29]

If you can, target ammonia facility in Israel

 

[Immortals]

 

[Alex]

GoP is doing its level best. One could not fault it even if they tried. I hope it bears fruit inshallah.

The trump card is that idiot Trump. He speaks with two tongues. Can't trust a single thing he says given all the whispers from his Zionist/Israeli constituency.

If his hubris prevails, things will get a lot worse before they get better and Iran will not surrender. This is what worries me. Trump needs to cut his losses and not let Netanyahu et-al influence him any more. Which is easier said than done.

Trump is getting a pretty rough deal here within the USA. Even his earlier supporters are now turning against him due to his policies, especially since this war has started.
I fear that things would get worse; the USA is going to attack Iran viciously in the coming days.
As for Israel, it definitely wants the USA to get more involved and strike Iran harder than it has been doing. Basically, in my opinion, Israel has no options left; if Iran is allowed to stand, it means it would get recognition and power in the local hood. Israel has already lost its invincibility in the area; now even the forces within southern Lebanon are giving Israel a tough time.
The only chance the Gulf countries had to get rid of Israeli influence and control was to hit Israel so hard that its population flees and never comes back. Once it loses the majority of its population, it is done.
The only question is how long Iran can stand and how much further punishment it can take. Everything hinges on it.
Something serious has happened yesterday in the rescue operation. We probably would never know due to secrecy. But I have this suspicion: whatever had happened had enraged President Trump, and he is going to get nasty, I am certain of it. I pray for everyone's safety. The wars are not the solution. We humans should evolve better and sort out our differences without violence. Let's all pray it never goes to the point of no return for humanity. But I am certain when Israel feels it is on the point of non-existence, it would do the unthinkable or push America to do it.

 

[Immortals]

 

[kobra]

If you can, target ammonia facility in Israel

Time is not on Iran's side unfortunately.

 

[Falcon29]

Trump and Hegseth are too cowardly to act on their threats

By end of today or tomorrow morning they'll say progress was made in negotiations and they have delayed strikes again

 

[Blain2]

Overall a great post again by, my favorite PDF Pakistani!
Yes, the system is aligned with the population. You see, just now Pakistan decided to give back the billions to UAE because UAE had some specific expectations of Pakistan in this conflict, which the Pakistani 'system' could not accept. There is no sugar coating that's why Pakistan returned the money.
As to the quoted part: Well, there are the usual dozen odd Pakistanis who bring their domestic politics into every thread; while one is tempted to ignore them but they keep misleading non Pakistanis about Pakistan. They are, what I call, the Reza Shah Pahlavi Brigade of Pakistan. But I wish they stop at least in this very sensitive thread.

You are too kind.

What is lost on some of the detractors is that for good or bad, the establishment does what it needs to in order to protect the state. It may not be popular, it may not even be moral, but it will do what it thinks is in Pakistan's interests. And right now making peace, and not coming under undue influence of the likes of the UAE etc. is one.

1000% agree with the domestic politics tainting geo-pol threads. Very little that we can do besides logically pushing back.

 

[kobra]

Name of Hajj Qassem still terrifies Yankees..

This is where they started to lose the grip in the region against Israil. They staged a planned response inforning GCC and Europe of symbolic strikes on US base in Iraq.

If they reacted in genuine manner, try to take out someone significant enough, they would not have lost the grip on escalation ladder. Death note of Hanniayh, Sinwar, NasrAllaha, Khameni and practically whole of anti israil entities were signed after that measured cosmetic response.