Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

[ChineseTiger1986]

Not many countries in this world are seeing you guys as dependable enough to risk being your proxy.

China is only business-oriented, and conducting proxy-war is to make the third nations suffered and to turn its nation into a battleground, which is against China's moral principles.

 

[Watandar]

At this point, countries that bought Chinese arms, regardless of what, are wondering if what they paid for are any good.

Pakistan is quite satisfied with what Chinese collaboration has delivered against Western tech. Iran is also doing well with real time intelligence provided by Chinese satellites. The list of satisfied Chinese clients is going to grow and best news is the Chinese don't charge an arm and a leg.

 

[Immortals]

 

[UndercoverJIX]

this brought tears in my eyes...May Allah Help Iran and give hidayat to rest of the Muslims Aameen

 

[Zoyou]

 

[gambit]

Second time you've fixated on their airforce. There was no serious push from Iran to make airforce a part of their doctrine for this war.

Here is the real world deal...

THERE IS NO SUBSTITUTE FOR AN AIR FORCE...!!!

Iran, and much of the world, got seduced by missiles. Cheaper than air force in every way. Gives the leadership a false sense of security, strength, and power. USAF leadership says "Suckers".

It is the missile and drone bases that are carrying this war. We've already seen the US bomb the living daylights out of a base only for it to remain active.

To do what?

 

[Shags101]

At this point, countries that bought Chinese arms, regardless of what, are wondering if what they paid for are any good.

J 10 beat a rafale and an f 35 got hit by a country with no air defense……but again since china hasn’t sold weapons or as far as the known world knows anything of significance in decades to Iran it’s not really part of the conversation here to be fair

 

[Kyussis]

Am going to guess of Cold War and Desert Storm?

The Cold War was an absolute necessity. When I was on the F-111E (RAF Upper Heyford), I managed to snag a controlled tour to East Berlin. Yes, back then active duty personnels can play tourists in communist countries under appropriate conditions, anyway, after three days in East Berlin, I returned to the West with renewed conviction that resisting communism was the morally righteous thing to do.

As for Desert Storm, Iraq under Saddam Hussein must be contained and after the invasion of Kuwait, he sealed his own fate with his own pen. But after DS, it was at best a C- on how the US occupied and ran the country. Some things we did right, some not. To this day, speaking for myself, I do not believe DS was the wrong thing to do, and that it was necessary.

Take your meds and go to sleep Grand Pa!

 

[BigMela2onin]

More intelligent convos than what I found here...

Then by all means, please spare this thread and us of your misinformation and go have those conversations instead.

 

[SecularNationalist]

At this point, countries that bought Chinese arms, regardless of what, are wondering if what they paid for are any good.

Well Chinese arms did excellent job for us when it comes to India. They defeated western systems Indian air force operates.

Yeaahhh...We were wondering the same...We were looking for that Iranian 'stealth' fighter...

Yea lol that steal fighter suddenly came in my mind. I remember that black one. I forgot about it completely. Year ago I saw it.

 

[Shags101]

2030 I guess that’s thrown out of the window I think after this war is done Saudis are going to have lost a lot more than everyone else

 

[gambit]

Then by all means, please spare this thread and us of your misinformation and go have those conversations instead.

The unknown number of silent readers out there disagree with you.

Am not here to change your minds. But the silent readers out there deserves more than your feeble thoughts.

 

[ety]

No. Right now, your Parade Line Army is wondering why Chinese radars failed so badly in Iran.

Talk of nonsense of what Chinese radars ? Lol, your US radars, THADDs and many military bases have been obliterated by Iran indeed. Are you proud of the performance of your superpower power ?

 

[Shags101]

Here is the real world deal...

THERE IS NO SUBSTITUTE FOR AN AIR FORCE...!!!

Iran, and much of the world, got seduced by missiles. Cheaper than air force in every way. Gives the leadership a false sense of security, strength, and power. USAF leadership says "Suckers".


To do what?

Well I don’t think it is that simple I definitely agree Iran lacking a modern efficient Air Force is one of their biggest problems but as everyone here knows no one would sell them any relevant planes the Russians were stonewalling the entire time and even than first thing that started coming in were a couple of yaks and an mi 28

 

[cir]

By my calculations, it should be about time for Iran to shoot down a few U.S. B1-B and B2 bombers. Can't wait. Hoping to hear the good news soon.