Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

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Exactly, that's what people don't get when they wonder why Iranian Leaders (politicians and Military) don't go into hiding and continue freely their regular life...they WANT to die! Khamenei WANTED to die!
All these people where the ones who created the nezam and ruled it for 47 years, and now they realized the time has come to give power to the next generation!
And to ensure the nezam comes out stronger after the war, the wanted to become martyrs and legends!

Now a new generation with no back story will rule over an internationally, geopolitically and economically heavily empowered Iran!!!
 
Yasser76 said:
Big if, but if Pak can get both sides to do a deal today it will be one of the greatest diplomatic triumphs of the modern era....
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Agreed, although Israel won't let it happen at any cost. A lasting solution to world problems can not come about until this rabid dog is put in it's place.
 
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Exactly, that's what people don't get when they wonder why Iranian Leaders (politicians and Military) don't go into hiding and continue freely their regular life...they WANT to die! Khamenei WANTED to die!
All these people where the ones who created the nezam and ruled it for 47 years, and now they realized the time has come to give power to the next generation!
And to ensure the nezam comes out stronger after the war, the wanted to become martyrs and legends!

Now a new generation with no back story will rule over an internationally, geopolitically and economically heavily empowered Iran!!!
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Just because he wanted to die, doesn't mean that he had to take the entire country down with him. His nuclear fatwa destroyed Iran.

Maybe a person that wants to die isn't really the best person to lead a country.
 
Forsvaret said:
More importantly, a temporary ceasefire as proposed by Pakistan ain’t in Iran’s best interests:
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You start somewhere. The proposal was to bring both parties to table and try to find a middle ground. Pakistan has best intention for Iran and the greater region.
 
Forsvaret said:
More importantly, a temporary ceasefire as proposed by Pakistan ain’t in Iran’s best interests:
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Iranians are our brothers

We stand with them as our neighbours

I do hope Pakistan is through back channels helping Iran

Pakistan is the master of the double game

We should doing it again keeping China in the loop fully
 
Ali_Baba said:
Iran has unfortunately demonstrated that it cannot shape reality in israel, they can in the PGCC and are doing so. It seems that Irans short range systems are very effective and precise and create a lot of damage. The long range stuff is having problems it seems, with not being able to achieve the same level of destruction as they are in the PGCC.
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So far they have done following:

Hospitalized injured ~8K of population (calculate 10% casualty rate which is the thumb rule)

Damaged/wrecked 15K buildings

Have landed around ~600000-700000 lbs warheads onto Israeli soil

Have been consistently attacking Haifa Bazan oil field, burning its reservoir

Have destroyed military industrial complex's suppliers factories

Have destroyed Chemical Industry plants

Have attacked power stations resulting in temporary power outages

Have attacked infrastructure (water and sewage lineages bursted)

Have almost Emptied the interceptor stocks (most important). Israel has the worlds most diverse and layered ABM/AD shield

Have destroyed the 13 radar EW land based network in Arab countries that feeds live datalinks of search n track coordinates of incoming missiles to Israeli ABM/AD

Have attacked airport which resulted in "unspecified aircrafts" being destroyed

Have attacked Air bases ... after which surprisingly F-35i Adir is missing from skies.

All this while smultaneously fighting a hyper military power and its 13 bases and 2 CBGs ..... Is IDF deterred ? no ... Is IRGC deterred by US-ISrael-PGCC ? No ... War is a different domain altogether.
 
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Sadly the unintended consequences on raging illegal wars and killing children.
Wouldn't put it passed Netanyahu to hold a false flag attack gaining sympathy
 
Iran simply must spend 2-3 days targeting Zionist infrastructure in Palestine as otherwise it will lose its own critical infrastructure soon.

50-60 missiles with penetration of circa 15-20 would mean enough direct hits to make Zio-US back off.

It simply needs to forget cluster attacks on Tel Aviv airport as that is not having any deterrent effect. They are a total waste of precious resources as it needs to aim for refineries, power plants and water desalination plants now.

IRGC is doing well but I have no idea why multiple power plants and maybe a single desalination plant has not been taken out yet.

Iran now has the capability as Zio-US ABM interceptor stock is sufficiently degraded, and so needs to impose the 'cost' on the Zionist entity that Zio-US won't ever dare threaten to destroy its infrastructure ever again.
 
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