Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

[Watandar]

@Watandar , you reside in the US. Are any MAGA people targeting you?

yes the visa bans , loosening of civil rights and anti-discrimination laws and increasing normalized hate in society is targeting me.

With regards to US foreign policy, in the last 50 years America has directly attacked multiple Muslim countries and indirectly supported insurgencies, terrorists, dictators and economic blockades that include almost the entire Mideast and large parts of North Africa and South Asia, while remaining a blind supporter of Israel. Thats why it is correct to say it is targeting Muslims.

 

[hasssanali8998]

a nuke is going to be no more effective

they were disgned to be used agianst russian nuclear bunkers
they penetrate few feet deep and then explode and the shockwaves collapses the bunkers , they will do the job

 

[HAIDER]

I think Pakistanis would be doing the right thing to stop America and your genocide Israel from bullying everyone.

Pakistan's ultimate goal is to protect its nuclear arsenal. Otherwise, in these negotiations, Pakistan only works as a mailbox.

 

[AZ_HighCountry]

Yes directed at his and my name isn’t @Watandar but I had to add to this I have seen the maga people on corners in south Florida do they are giving the wackiest of left wing protesters a bigger run for their money so weird they really are many are just plain weird

There is a reason why the fringe elements on both sides are watched.

 

[Master Chief]

Now the users here who disagreed with me on my comment about the difference between the Pakistani system and the Pakistani people can see I was not wrong.

Saudi Arabia is a belligerent in this war. They are constantly pushing Trump to finish Iran, and you can see whose side Shahbaz Sharif is on.

You give far too much credit to the ululations of Pakistani politicians on Twitter. Pakistan's overall governance is not based on token statements by politicians, even by the PM (hint: "hybrid system").

 

[Taimoor]

Keep telling yourself that.

I am saving you embarrassment. Mark my words, Pakistan will not stick it neck for Saudis. No failed marshal or his goons can change that.

 

[CynicalPakistaniCritic]

@Persian Gulf

Can't emphasize enough how much Iran's immediate and initial response changed the tide of the war and complicated US and Israeli political objectives

Still can't believe you missed in it. In real time it was not something anyone was suspecting, out the get go. It felt like they were anticipating Iran would adopt a gradual, more linear-like response doctrine

I missed it unfortunately, can you give me a rundown please?

 

[Immortals]

Pakistan needs allies just like Iran as both are faced with an active threat from a larger adversary.

You think Saudi Arabia is going to rescue Pakistan if U.S. or Israel/India were to attack? That the Saudi family would risk their grip of power?

That is some serious dangerous level of optimism.

 

[KingQamaR]

Looks like Pakistan disagrees with you.

Pakistanis are to stupid they will regret it if they don’t. Nethanyahu and Zionists have said openly Pakistanis are next.

 

[tsunset]

 

[Immortals]

You give far too much credit to the ululations of Pakistani politicians on Twitter. Pakistan's overall governance is not based on token statements by politicians, even by the PM (hint: "hybrid system").

The Pakistan military and by extension the political government makes the decisions not the people. Just look at America, a deeply unpopular war and people are barely even protesting.

This thinking that the public in Pakistan would stop the military from making its decision is not rooted in reality.

 

[Starlord]

Yes directed at his and my name isn’t @Watandar but I had to add to this I have seen the maga people on corners in south Florida do they are giving the wackiest of left wing protesters a bigger run for their money so weird they really are many are just plain weird

Funny how you mentioned South Florida, when i was planning a trip to Destin FL, I was told by 3-4 people who have lived in pass Spring Hill - Brooksville that try not to stop between Spring hill and Panama city, give the a wrong turn could turn deadly.

 

[Master Chief]

I am saving you embracement. Mark my words, Pakistan will not stick it neck for Saudis. No failed marshal or his goons can change that.

I actually agree with you (only partly; am ignoring the second part of your partisan statement) on something. Wow!

 

[Ali_Baba]

This is going to the brink, but that is what very high level negotiations are like, both US and Iran know this is not worth the price now.

My guess is a very last minute deal.

The alternative is too horrific to imagine, and the thought of Saudi and PAF jets bombing Iran along with US and Israel truly sickens me to the pit of my stomach

I suspect there will need to be "some more war", before this ends as the tide is turning in Iran's favour now economically as the siege of the Straits are only now taking effect. They are taking big hits, but the cost of this war has not been fully imposed on the USA/Israel yet or the world at large.

 

[CynicalPakistaniCritic]

Now the users here who disagreed with me on my comment about the difference between the Pakistani system and the Pakistani people can see I was not wrong.

Saudi Arabia is a belligerent in this war. They are constantly pushing Trump to finish Iran, and you can see whose side Shahbaz Sharif is on.

Saudi Arabia is a long-time ally of Pakistan and played a critical role when Pakistan came under sanctions during its nuclear program with strong military ties and economic ties, any sensible administration is not going to go against Saudi Arabia for the sake of Iran. This is why it is taking a balanced approach.

No government would take any different stance.