Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

Forsvaret said:
Taliban have already proven that this strategy actually works by keeping US / West trapped in Afghanistan for nearly two decades until they just gave up and left that meaningless & very costly war!
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Not a good example.

Taliban are not interested in living in civilization

Iran most certainly is.

The global disruption Iran hoped for is affection the global South most.
 
ShapurII said:
. The US forces will be stationed and prepared to launch a ground invasion of Iran. The US amphibious ships will pass through the Strait of Hormuz.
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You have identified the biggest risk, with the USA proposal, it will allow for the troop carrier to potentially to get to Kuwait, Bahrain, Iraq or even UAE to be staged for attack.
 
PakSword said:
Lovely post. But in an (un)likely scenario of Iranian attack on the KofSA, and the latter deciding to invoke the defence agreement, what should Pakistan do?
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Ask for saudi help against Afghanistan and india, give out ridiculous demands that Saudis would find hard to accept and reason them with the limited help Pakistan could provide. What the hell do the saudis think we can do that the americans and isrealis havent done already? Pakistan can send some GBAD and fighters to destroy a couple drones but if saudis really do want us to join their suicide pact and bomb iran ask for 100% insurance coverage on all damage inflicted by iran on Pakistan and ask for further oil concessions. They will shut up real fast when that happens and if theyre smart reason against further escalation. I dont think it will even need to reach that far MBZ is salivating at thought of iran kicking his ass so theyll soon have a live example
 
I pray to Allah that sanity prevails on both sides.

I pray that Iran gets the rightful reparations.

I pray for the security and safety of all the regional countries.

I pray that Pakistan is successful in helping both the parties sign a permanent ceasefire.

I pray that Israel is destroyed sooner than later..

Say Ameen.
 
Forsvaret said:
Why not if Iran’s strategy is indeed similar to Taliban: Keep US / Israel trapped in this forever war until they just give up and leave Iran alone?
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Because Iran may not be able to. Iran cannot have its 90M people disappear into caves. It is a modern, functioning country and it cannot fight a war indefinitely.

There will be point in time when both these countries will need/look for off-ramps. One hopes and prays that it comes soon (like today iA) with some meaningful give and take.
 
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Forsvaret said:
Taliban have already proven that this strategy actually works by keeping US / West trapped in Afghanistan for nearly two decades until they just gave up and left that meaningless & very costly war!
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It worked because afg had nothing to lose...afg to this day is 90% rural....where houses are overwhelmingly made of mud, and most ppl are illiterate.
on the other hand, Iran is a bastion of a very old civilization.....ppl are educated, Iran has a modern infrastructure and a very sophisticated eco inspite of the sanctions.

But if Iran wants to become afg, then be my guest.
 
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There is a lot of bluster here. I feel that Iranian infrastructure will be hit if nothing pans out via talks.

The problem is, that means all of the oil infrastructure in PG goes off-line and it may take many months and possibly years to recover after both sides go at it. Which means a potential global recession.
 
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