Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

[PakistanLVR]

If it were up to me, it's not, but if it were, I would've happily given them all of our oil, natural gas, helium reserves, lithium reserves and anything else they want if they install a secular puppet state.

Anything but these incompetent fools that are ruling over us now. Even MEK is fine at this point.

you need to relax. I understand your anguish, but the emotional outbursts aren't helping. After Iranians, its is Pakistanis who are still very much pan-Ummah that are on Iran's side. Pakistan unlike 90% of the world, know and understand the depth of US politics, and how to manage them. If they are helping, they aren't selling Iran out - biggest proof is returning a loan back to the UAE, not getting involved in fighting the Houthis for the arabs. So take a chill pill

 

[ShapurII]

Tarring Pakistan with the same brush as the US now?

Pakistan also has an interest in keeping the oil price down, don't you?
Anyway, I was wrong. Sorry for that. The real betrayal came from within Iran.

Oil prices are crashing too, meaning that a ceasefire is probably being finalized as we speak.

 

[Immortals]

Instead of China being involved or Russia to secure UN Security Council level guarantees this idiotic government in Iran has the Egyptian intelligence minister and the Qatari’s helping negotiate.

What a terrible foreign policy decision.

 

[HAIDER]

Yes his twitter and press releases are handled by some staff, otherwise you get a President tweeting Praise be to Allah on easter.

may be Shahbaz Sharrif intentionally leaked the draft.

 

[Falcon29]

We are not gonna get the answer in two hours. This could on for a few days before any ceasefire is reached.

Trump and the Jews are massive evil narcassists that don't care about well-being of residents of Middle East or greater world.

 

[Immortals]

 

[Starlord]

So I have a proposal, If Israel try to sabotage the ceasefire which they might do it, its in their nature so Iran should just flatten every tall building in Tel Aviv, America will have ceasefire but Ceasefire is not with Israel so if Israel Attack Iran they are within their right to hit back.

 

[r3alist]

The only thing useful for Iran is pressure... exactly the heat that is on right now! Collapse the oil markets and bring the oil to $200... let orange deal with the fallout for the war he started...

I think people misunderstand markets, the s & p has lost about 5% since the start of this conflict, and when you compare that to the level of destruction then the exchange ratio really is not that favourable if you hoped to bring financial markets down

Oil is around 110 but it would take significantly longer and more destruction to get it over to 150, and in that scenario the global South is in trouble

By the way, have you seen the Israeli stock exchange performance?

 

[WildApache]

Can they announce the cease-fire or reject it soon? I have to go to walmart for grocery shopping.

Lol

Well, I’m off to bed. If it’s the end of the world it’s been fun chatting to you all over the years, and best of luck in the fallout.

 

[ShapurII]

Instead of China being involved or Russia to secure UN Security Council level guarantees this idiotic government in Iran has the Egyptian intelligence minister and the Qatari’s helping negotiate.

What a terrible foreign policy decision.

I'm starting to see a link between today's vetoes by China and Russia, and these ceasefire talks that seem to be ongoing. Hardly a coincidence in my opinion.

 

[r3alist]

Looks like market manipulation again but we will have to wait and see

So if markets can be manipulated then you have a flawed strategy to think this war will cause chaos in the markets, unless you prolong this for a long time with sustained damage.

 

[Prophecy]

90% probability of this happening....Good for Pakistans's posture

This proposal looks like a tailored arrangement between Washington and Islamabad to give an off-ramp to Trump.

If he decides not to go for the attack this proposal will definitely not be the reason. Most likely criticism or resistance domestically and internationally.

 

[BigMela2onin]

If Hormuz is opened now, it will never be an option to use again.

 

[RocketLaw]

You have TWO WEEKS to buy a new JF-17 or J-10CE, let's do it!

 

[Meengla]

Every forum member arguing for a ceasfire will be forced to pay me $1 for every ceasefire violation in the coming weeks. I expect to be tens of thousands of dollars richer soon.

I could pay you one Pakistani Paisa per violation, for whatever it's worth!
Iran is not Gaza: Iran has real teeth and they are not going away because of a 2 week ceasefire.