Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

[FUB]

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[ShapurII]

@Persian Gulf @Immortals

The US has informed the Israelis that it will insist on Iran handing over its uranium stockpile in the negotiations.

 

[FUB]

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[PAKISTANFOREVER]

Biggest losers are the Reza pahlavi and Iranians who wanted regime change.

The shah of Iran fled the country. Any leader who fled the country Or even sign up for self exile cannot be sincere with their nation. Leaders who prefer jail in own country over a life of luxury in exile are real patriots.

Externally pressured regime change is always a disaster for any nation as it's being done on other country's interests. If a regime must have to be changed then it must be done and decided by the people of that nation.

So many lessons from this war by Iran. No nation should ever compromise on their sovereignty. Iran kept standing against all odds and against a super power but never compromised on its soverignity. IRGC remained loyal to the political structure of the country and Iran came up as even strong country. Remember Trump's tweet at beginning of the war that "I will select leader of Iran". Iran has told the world, that you don't have to surrender to demands of a bully.

So happy for the outcome of this war. Iran is clearly a strategic winner here.

I would also add that the gulfi arabs and israelis are also some of the biggest lovers. Iran is MUCH MUCH more powerful than all the gulfis combined and the project for a "greater israel" has been delt a powerful blow.

 

[ShapurII]

Trump: If we do not reach a deal, we will resume the war.

 

[hussain0216]

I believe that Iran made a mistake as it needed to cause severe damage to Zionist entity to actually “finish” this war.

It simply wasted dozens of missiles clustering Tel-Aviv when they should have been sent to knock out Zionist oil refineries, power plants and desalination plants.

It was because it got distracted by cluster bombing settlers that Zio-US felt emboldened to attack Iranian critical infrastructure

It did not learn the lesson of June 2025 12 day war- it immediately knocked out Haifa Oil Refinery after Zionist entity attacked South Pars gas field. After this Zionist entity did not dare attack Iranian infrastructure again.

I tend to agree with this

I'm happy Iran won't be attacked, but the reality is Iran is already attacked, with infrastructure hit and people killed

The U.S and world is desperate for a cease-fire because the Hormuz is vital for the world economy

This atleast creates some deterrent for the future, as Iran has the ability to completely shut the place down as well as the as the GCC

And I don't think U.S wants this conflict to go on in anyway

This atleast gives Iran a strong hand in talks


Iran needs to have sanctions removed
It needs to retain financial control over the Hormuz
It needs to be able to trade freely and deal with all countries without restriction

It can even play smart and give the U.S a bone and try to dump everything on Israel


I think everyone needed this ceasefire, even though it's risky


Its also very likely that it could break down because of Israel, that little cancerous tumor of a state is still causing multiple problems and needs to eradicated off this world

 

[lightning f57]

It is true that Saudi Arabia did not attack us directly

But they allowed the U.S. to use their airspace for vital refuelling operations on a daily basis

Saudis provided logistics, allowed overflights and likely shared intelligence. Add the rumours MBS pushed for an attack which we can for argument sake discount for now.

 

[FUB]

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[东风夜放花千树]

However, most Chinese tend to develop a habit to underestimate itself, but keep overestimating its enemies.

Your point is correct. This is related to our education and history.

I was stunned when the Pakistani army shot down multiple Indian planes and achieved a complete victory. I knew Pakistan would not fail, and we would not accept Pakistan failing. But this achievement was indeed shocking.

At that time, my question was: Is modern warfare like this?

Wars or conflicts that occurred between 2020 and 2025 can be summarized in one sentence.

China, India, and the Philippines used cold weapons to fight.

Russia and Ukraine engaged in World War I-style trench warfare.

The United States and Israel stuck to the old tactics, using superior air forces to bomb other countries and attacking other countries using terrorist methods.

The difference is, Pakistan and India conducted beyond-visual-range aerial combat.

This is a new type of warfare, whose influence is no less than that of the Gulf War. This war has shown us what high-tech warfare looks like.

 

[ShapurII]

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UAE is attacking Iran now?

It's Israel, not the UAE. I seriously hope it's the Emirates though.
They should give us an excuse to make Dubai inhabitable.

 

[Goenitz]

For those who know

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[东风夜放花千树]

It matters because the Indian FM has called Pakistan a "dallal". Indian media has reportedly very negatively regarding Pakistan's role to bring peace between Iran and the US.

After the May war, India lost its international voice, and Western countries were very disappointed with India's performance.

This fits India's character well; seeing Pakistan's success is even more unacceptable than India's failure.

 

[RescueRanger]

The Pakistani Ambassador in Beirut has reportedly asked to inform all parties that Israel is not adhering to agreements and is continuing its "aggressions." - Press wire.

 

[Taimoor]

That’s why i always wish him Martyrdom

Jokes aside, only if this retard not abused the office he occupies and cause all the social and political mayhem in Pakistan, He and IK would have been a great combo for the cause of Pakistan. In pure IT terms, IK will be handling the frontend, the face of Pakistan in media and social, while he dealing with the backend, military diplomacy and what not. Shahbaz cant even put a tweet together properly that moron.

 

[Meengla]

The thing is if the whole world was under Bibi's control it would not be a big enough 'Buffer Zone'.
Guy is just unsecure mentally. May he die a death worse than any dog die's.

Starting to watch this and currently on minute 20. After about min 15, there is a consensus that Netanyahu has some kind of 'charm' like control of Trump but Trump himself was not a passive player on this war on Iran.
I KNEW it when Trump was elected in 2024 that Middle East was going to be in big trouble--even worse than under Biden-- because now both Trump and Netanyahu were going to occupy their respective offices. Trump had already conceded too much to Israel in his first term.
Personal biases of leaders matter a lot! But too loosely people imply nations always act on their 'self interest'. Rubbish!

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