Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

[BigMela2onin]

Total Iranian surrender brokered by Pakistan and China.

 

[Pak-Warrior]

In short, we lost and we capitulated. The rest of it doesn't matter.

How on earth?

Even before the war was started. Almost all reputable analysts were saying that for Iran to win this war have to just survive it without regime getting replaced by something else or civil war or iran becoming Syria (different armed factions).

Iran not only survived it. But gain strategic leverage, it displayed to whole world that any aggression over Iran will be extremely costly for whole world. Iran got control over strait (which was not the case before the war). That was added bonus.

and obviously US failed to decimate Iran's missile/drone program. By every definition Iran has won.

 

[Cipher212]

I've seen enough. 100 missiles to Dubai, please.

 

[PAKISTANFOREVER]

I can totally close my eyes and see that.

Saarrr... I have good news. We defeated them. We triumphed against the aggression of the Persians... Please extend my Iqama, saar...

The gulfis and emiratis in particular have got so close to the indians that they are starting to become JUST LIKE indians.........

 

[Sal12]

The chances of US and West agreeing to Iran's right to enrich Uranium and have nuclear weapons are higher than agreeing for Iran's taking toll tax at Hormuz strait.

 

[RocketLaw]

 

[MH.Yang]

Well its starting to make sense why they bombed railways if they wanted to make it difficult for Iran to rearm.

China owns a portion of the shares in the China Iran Railway. If Israel attacks China's assets, it will violate the Geneva Conventions, and China may abandon its relatively neutral stance and more openly support Iran.

And China's diplomatic attitude will greatly affect the diplomatic attitudes of many countries. Does Israel really want China to seriously intervene in this war?

 

[ShapurII]

Another legacy of khamenei, never purging the reformists. We will end up a puppet state as you wished for, and we got to keep our islands.

Dude, you wish. We will not even be a puppet state. They will tear us apart after the ceasefire ends.

 

[ShapurII]

@ShapurII

I see your dislike reaction. Whatever I wrote is not what I want to happen. I am just saying that Iran should obviously expect US would ask for HEU dilation + commitments to not pursue nuclear weapons in exchange for sanctions relief.

Its upto Iran if it wants nuclear weapons Or sanctions relief. This is what Iranians and Iran's leaders have to decide. I am only saying that both cannot happen together. You cannot have sanctions lifted + pursuit of nuclear weapons.

Yes, and I disagree with that assessment.

We accepted an early ceasefire again. Things will get worse for us.

 

[Meengla]

Anyone seen confirmation on this? Where's Khamenei Jr?

As far as I know, this Pakistani lady was the first to have reported the American 15 points and the Iranian 5 points and that was several days ago; many pages ago, I had posted her video.
In her latest video, she is going through the various stages of how this ceasefire came to happen with Mojtaba Khamenei being the decisive voice from Iran.
English captions available.

 

[MH.Yang]

Another legacy of khamenei, never purging the reformists. We will end up a puppet state as you wished for, and we got to keep our islands.

The surrenderists in Iran were too cowardly in Trump's 2025 attack, which made Trump believe that Iran still has a lot of room for retreat, leading to more intense pressure and war. Meanwhile, Iran's actions have also caused many potential allies to lose trust in Iran.

 

[Optical216]

Yes, and I disagree with that assessment.

We accepted an early ceasefire again. Things will get worse for us.

my friend u also need to realize the IRGC may know something we dont its rumored their liquid fuel supplies were running out which they were getting from china they only have 10 days supply now at best now iran will have time to rectify its mistakes, restock and come back stronger.

 

[sharreman10]

Let's see what happens, contradicting information coming from both sides. Doubt this ceasefire will last. Let's reassess in a couple of days.

 

[ShapurII]

How on earth?

Even before the war was started. Almost all reputable analysts were saying that for Iran to win this war have to just survive it without regime getting replaced by something else or civil war or iran becoming Syria (different armed factions).

Iran not only survived it. But gain strategic leverage, it displayed to whole world that any aggression over Iran will be extremely costly for whole world. Iran got control over strait (which was not the case before the war). That was added bonus.

and obviously US failed to decimate Iran's missile/drone program. By every definition Iran has won.

You're kidding, right? May I ask who these "reputable analysts" are?

Iran is going to sign a deal that was offered to us before the June war. Before 2 rounds of war. It is a deal of surrender for Iran. We could've signed it 10 months ago and saved us a lot of destruction and pain. How is this a win? If this is a win, your definitions are extremely flawed.

 

[Vapnope]

Dude, you wish. We will not even be a puppet state. They will tear us apart after the ceasefire ends.

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US is going to put sanctions on china or Russia? You think so?