Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

[Fasbre2]

Iran has offered all of that before

The issue is being allowed to enrich even at token low levels

During negotiations Iran must link its enrichment program with Israel’s. If Iran does not have a significant civilian nuclear power program then it does not need nuclear enrichment capabilities, conversely the same also applies to Israel as they also do not have a significant civilian nuclear power program, therefore they do not need a reprocessing and enrichment (laser) program..

 

[LeonBlack08]

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So on one hand you have ceasefire, and on the other they are preventing Iran from replenishing its stockpile in the event of ceasefire failure to defend itself. All while US is bringing in more interceptors and other military assets from Indo Pacific.

This does not have good vibes.

 

[Goenitz]

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Oman showing apt diplomacy.

 

[Corax]

The Pakistani ceasefire gives both Iran and the US a way out without having seen to back down from each other, and I guess both will claim that and overall victory. Trump will claim that his rhetoric and threats before the ceasefire brought the Iranians to the table, while the Iranians will claim they defeated the patience and risk tolerance of the US.

But the joker in the pack will always be the lunacy and bipolarism of Trump, that guy is certifiably deranged.

 

[BigMela2onin]

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Total Iranian surrender brokered by Pakistan and China.

 

[Pak-Warrior]

In short, we lost and we capitulated. The rest of it doesn't matter.

How on earth?

Even before the war was started. Almost all reputable analysts were saying that for Iran to win this war have to just survive it without regime getting replaced by something else or civil war or iran becoming Syria (different armed factions).

Iran not only survived it. But gain strategic leverage, it displayed to whole world that any aggression over Iran will be extremely costly for whole world. Iran got control over strait (which was not the case before the war). That was added bonus.

and obviously US failed to decimate Iran's missile/drone program. By every definition Iran has won.

 

[Cipher212]

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I've seen enough. 100 missiles to Dubai, please.

 

[PAKISTANFOREVER]

I can totally close my eyes and see that.

Saarrr... I have good news. We defeated them. We triumphed against the aggression of the Persians... Please extend my Iqama, saar...

The gulfis and emiratis in particular have got so close to the indians that they are starting to become JUST LIKE indians.........

 

[Sal12]

The chances of US and West agreeing to Iran's right to enrich Uranium and have nuclear weapons are higher than agreeing for Iran's taking toll tax at Hormuz strait.

 

[RocketLaw]

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[MH.Yang]

Well its starting to make sense why they bombed railways if they wanted to make it difficult for Iran to rearm.

China owns a portion of the shares in the China Iran Railway. If Israel attacks China's assets, it will violate the Geneva Conventions, and China may abandon its relatively neutral stance and more openly support Iran.

And China's diplomatic attitude will greatly affect the diplomatic attitudes of many countries. Does Israel really want China to seriously intervene in this war?

 

[ShapurII]

Another legacy of khamenei, never purging the reformists. We will end up a puppet state as you wished for, and we got to keep our islands.

Dude, you wish. We will not even be a puppet state. They will tear us apart after the ceasefire ends.

 

[ShapurII]

@ShapurII

I see your dislike reaction. Whatever I wrote is not what I want to happen. I am just saying that Iran should obviously expect US would ask for HEU dilation + commitments to not pursue nuclear weapons in exchange for sanctions relief.

Its upto Iran if it wants nuclear weapons Or sanctions relief. This is what Iranians and Iran's leaders have to decide. I am only saying that both cannot happen together. You cannot have sanctions lifted + pursuit of nuclear weapons.

Yes, and I disagree with that assessment.

We accepted an early ceasefire again. Things will get worse for us.

 

[Meengla]

Anyone seen confirmation on this? Where's Khamenei Jr?

As far as I know, this Pakistani lady was the first to have reported the American 15 points and the Iranian 5 points and that was several days ago; many pages ago, I had posted her video.
In her latest video, she is going through the various stages of how this ceasefire came to happen with Mojtaba Khamenei being the decisive voice from Iran.
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[MH.Yang]

Another legacy of khamenei, never purging the reformists. We will end up a puppet state as you wished for, and we got to keep our islands.

The surrenderists in Iran were too cowardly in Trump's 2025 attack, which made Trump believe that Iran still has a lot of room for retreat, leading to more intense pressure and war. Meanwhile, Iran's actions have also caused many potential allies to lose trust in Iran.