Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

[Fatman17]

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[Ali_Baba]

Maybe it's conspiratorial thinking, but perhaps Trump is looking to dissolve NATO to open up the possibility of attacks on Turkey without them stepping in. Opinions @Eşbah ?

And that will be another war that Israel will lose.

 

[Fatman17]

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[Musings]

IMO That was a diversion to work on Greater Israel Project.
The major hurdles were
Syria : Taken care by removal of Assad.
Iran : Attacked and Top leadership removed.
Lebanon : invasion coming soon.

First they came for the Communists
And I did not speak out
Because I was not a Communist
Then they came for the Socialists
And I did not speak out
Because I was not a Socialist
Then they came for the trade unionists
And I did not speak out
Because I was not a trade unionist
Then they came for the Jews
And I did not speak out
Because I was not a Jew
Then they came for me
And there was no one left
To speak out for me

Good old Martin Neomoller

 

[Ali_Baba]

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What did red eyes say against Pakistan? Missed that.

 

[Homajon]

People don't truely grasp what happened: the US said if Hormuz remains closed, then end of civilisation....now Hormuz remains closed!

 

[Musings]

What did red eyes say against Pakistan? Missed that.

Bro

Use that imagination. Wasn't going to be complimentary. They eat live and sleep with Pakistan in their head. Isolation was Indias dream of Pakistan. Instead they have isolated themselves. What a shame.....

 

[Prophecy]

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I dare say that the Iranian leadership is not just incompetent, but has committed betrayal. Even if a ceasefire tantamount to a surrender is necessary, why not use these 14 days to fully prepare for battle by moving key figures to underground command centers, stockpiling supplies, reinforcing troops on the front lines, and mobilizing reserves? If Iran shows such preparations, the Ebstein coalition will hesitate to invade again. Why do they do nothing? Why do they only show a weak stance to avoid provoking the enemy? For the sake of peace, it is necessary to show a willingness to fight. A defenseless stance invites invasion and threatens the lives of Iranian children. Can someone explain to me why the mullahs cannot understand something so simple?

On the contrary I do think they are the only ones who actually understand, even under sanctions they prepared as much as they can.

Only because of the axis of resistance Greater Israel Project has not materialised sofar, they have done a great service to Muslims and Arabs in this regard even though Arab lands are at a threat and going to be taken not Iranian.

One of the core reasons why American bases exist in Arab countries is to..
1) Make sure their oil supports USD reserve currency status.
2) To provide a false sense of security so they do not develop alternate means of protection.
3) Any real opposition to American Jewish interests never take root.
4) Military projection over Middle East.

Basically an East India Company pro max model.


As for this instance I am sure they are doing whatever is possible of course won't tell us.

Allah will reward Iranian nation in the afterlife for all the economic and military hardships they faced by taking a stand instead of choosing glass towers and luxuries in this life.

 

[RescueRanger]

British Royal Air Force MQ-9 Reaper operating deep inside Lebanon.


Likely patrolling the Lebanese/Syrian border Ras Baalbeck-Nahleh

 

[Persian Gulf]

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[Persian Gulf]

Iranian hackers hacked the phone of former Israeli Chief of Staff Herzi Halevi and published photos - among the most prominent of what was published is this classified documentation of a visit to Jordan and his meeting with Jordanian Army Chief Yusuf Ahmed Al-Huneiti.

The gift that Halevi presented to the Jordanian Army Chief - a dagger belonging to a Jordanian soldier who participated in the 1967 war against Israel and which the Israeli army found after his killing.

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[Ali_Baba]

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Europe and NATO needs to be careful on "policing" the straits "within days" or "until" the conflict is permanently resolved.

If the Americans start attacking Iran again, what will the Europeans do in "policing" the straits? They would get caught in the middle. Stay out of this NATO/Europe. Trump cannot be trusted at all.

 

[Ali_Baba]

So we should be getting visuals of Vance's Air Force 2 being escorted by PAF Vipers.

Simultaneously, the Iranian leadership will probably be welcomed by JF-Thunders and/or J-10's.

Maybe the Iranians will come by land? A bit risky for them to fly over unless it is a PAF VIP transport plane that they are going to use.

 

[lightning f57]

Tactically, USA won the military battles, but strategically USA lost the war. It could not get its tactical victories to be translated to political goals and objectives.

You could argue what military battles did they really have? given most of what they did was airstrikes against little airdefences and no counter airforce.

The real military currency vs Iran were its missile bases, they failed to disable 1 base, so tactically for me its a failure too.

Irans doctrine never relied on an airforce or navy so we are comparing conventional battles when Iran didnt play that game, it was asymmetrical where it won.