Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

[RescueRanger]

Europe and NATO needs to be careful on "policing" the straits "within days" or "until" the conflict is permanently resolved.

If the Americans start attacking Iran again, what will the Europeans do in "policing" the straits? They would get caught in the middle. Stay out of this NATO/Europe. Trump cannot be trusted at all.

Yup, that expression says it all.

 

[Himalayan]

Iranian hackers hacked the phone of former Israeli Chief of Staff Herzi Halevi and published photos - among the most prominent of what was published is this classified documentation of a visit to Jordan and his meeting with Jordanian Army Chief Yusuf Ahmed Al-Huneiti.

The gift that Halevi presented to the Jordanian Army Chief - a dagger belonging to a Jordanian soldier who participated in the 1967 war against Israel and which the Israeli army found after his killing.

Army cheif is receiving A gift of humiliation.

 

[RocketLaw]

Australia



Europe



...(continue)... Spain is reopening its Tehran embassy after one month and joined France, the UK, Italy, Germany, and the EU Commission in a joint statement calling for the ceasefire to cover Lebanon. Albares, Barrot, and Cooper each condemned Israel's Wednesday strikes on Beirut as a violation threatening the agreement.

The Lebanon condition is the exact clause Iranian Parliament Speaker Ghalibaf cited yesterday when he walked out of the 10-point proposal before Saturday's Islamabad talks.

 

[maverick]

Europe and NATO needs to be careful on "policing" the straits "within days" or "until" the conflict is permanently resolved.

If the Americans start attacking Iran again, what will the Europeans do in "policing" the straits? They would get caught in the middle. Stay out of this NATO/Europe. Trump cannot be trusted at all.

I said it before and i will say it again, please Mark my words, NATO will be used for ground invasion against Iran minus Turkey in it. Mark my word on it. This will happen to revitalize NATO and transform it into a global policing force.

 

[SecularNationalist]

US must leash it's lap dog called isreal.
Isreal is trying hard to destroy peace talks in islamabad. It's obvious to the world the cancer called isreal is threat to world peace. And it's a liability to every nation who is an ally of isreal in any capacity. Because no one like isreal. World must realize isreal should cease to exist.

 

[Ali_Baba]

British Royal Air Force MQ-9 Reaper operating deep inside Lebanon.
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Likely patrolling the Lebanese/Syrian border Ras Baalbeck-Nahleh
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The UK is unfortunately always there to help Israel with the killing of Muslims, be it in Gaza, Iran, or now Iran in support of Israel for itself.

 

[Ali_Baba]

We have not seen any pictures of HMS Dragon since it returned to port for minor technical issue with "water processing" systems btw.

 

[Majestic]

Yes No Yes No Yes No...

 

[ShapurII]

 

[Ali_Baba]

You could argue what military battles did they really have? given most of what they did was airstrikes against little airdefences and no counter airforce.

The real military currency vs Iran were its missile bases, they failed to disable 1 base, so tactically for me its a failure too.

Irans doctrine never relied on an airforce or navy so we are comparing conventional battles when Iran didnt play that game, it was asymmetrical where it won.

Yep, the Americans did destroy a Navy that was at port mostly, or unarmed(ship from India) and a 45 year old air force that was grounded.

While the missile bases were not destroyed, they did prove very effective against the PGCC countries, but less so against Israel and that is something for Iran to think about once this war is over.

If we extend the conversation to what Iranian systems worked well, it was the Shahed-136 and "eventually" the Majid air defence system once the targets were "in range" of the system. A different conversation for a new and different thread after the war is over.

 

[hussain0216]

Again , what is the issue here? Desperate to make one i get that

Pakistan has attempted to bring peace to the region

The conflict was escalating at a dangerous pace, and trump was stupid enough to carry out his threat of bombing Iranian infrastructure even heavier then what's already happened

Pulling the U.S back from that brink was important

Multiple U.S generals were removed to allow war crimes to be carried out

The U.S is a mess at the moment and giving it an off ramp is vital to safeguard the region

Even if the war continues between Israel and Iran (and it will)

Israel wants south Lebanon, but Hezbollah with ATGMs and FPV drones is ruthless, modern warfare means Israel can't flood the south because as an invading force it will just be REPEATEDLY hit, and it will lose countless men and armour

The more Israel fails at this, the more brutal it tries to be in bombing Beirut and Lebanon to try and force Hezbollah to surrender or Lebanon to force Hezbollah to stand down


Pakistan has pulled a blinder here, and supported Iran,
The war was never going to end, Israel is a cancerous tumor, it's upto Iran to make use of the time it's been given

Time is against Israel, the anti Israel/Zionist movement is growing across the west and the U.S, pulling the U.S away from Israels is what matters

 

[Taimoor]

Maybe the Iranians will come by land? A bit risky for them to fly over unless it is a PAF VIP transport plane that they are going to use.

If talks happen and Iranians do arrive in Pakistan, they must be escorted by PAF while fully armed. Dont think it would be ceremonial escort. Even Americans needs to be escorted in similar fashion, too many spoilers around.

 

[Yasser76]

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Source? Link?

Such a sensitive time and too much disinfo going around....

 

[SecularNationalist]

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I don't believe any diplomat is that stupid to do such a thing and accept that will work as a ceasefire foundation. If that's true then why we are inviting them to islamabad and so they can negotiate face to face. You can't hide it. The only reason is a cancer like isreal that doesn't want peace. Don't believe online crap posted by indians. Most indians are pro isreal. Specially ones on X.

 

[Flotilla]

You could argue what military battles did they really have? given most of what they did was airstrikes against little airdefences and no counter airforce.

The real military currency vs Iran were its missile bases, they failed to disable 1 base, so tactically for me its a failure too.

Irans doctrine never relied on an airforce or navy so we are comparing conventional battles when Iran didnt play that game, it was asymmetrical where it won.

I agree. Even militarily US lost the war. After 40 days they still were unable to operate inside Iranian airspace freely.

Their targets were nuclear capability, missile program and overthrowing the Islamic Republic. All three failed miserably. Even worse they changed the Status quo prior belli that means that US bases will go out or retreated out of the GCC and Straits of Hormuz chokepoint stupidly lost.

US has been wiped out of the Persian Gulf.