Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

[ShapurII]

Looking at NY Times topmost news, almost impossible to believe the Islamabad Talks failed because of Iran's HEU stockpile, because of the Strait of Hormuz status, and because of the frozen Iranian assets. All those three points were not even major factors in the so-called negotiations just before this conflict started on 28 Feb. The major issues then were, as should be now, the range and the lethality of the Iranian Ballistic missiles.
I call it BS the reasons given for the failure of the Talks!! And I even suspect the Talks really failed!

You're kidding, right? Iran's uranium enrichment has been the one and only issue for Iran-US negotiations since 2013, including the last 2 rounds with Witkoff.

It was clear as day that these negotiations will fail. I didn't have even 0.001% of doubt about it.

 

[Garcia Sea]

According to reports, the United States has presented Iran with a demand for unconditional surrender, including the complete abandonment of uranium enrichment, the unconditional opening of the Strait of Hormuz, and even the refusal to return frozen assets. Araghchi and his men had not foreseen this and were likely dreaming of equal negotiations; Iran has once again been deceived.

 

[ToqeLowkey]

Start attacking zionist israhel right away iran since the talks have failed before they get more shipment of weapons.

 

[MH.Yang]

China isn’t doing anything it didn’t do before this war. It’s buying oil, but even that is no longer as critical as there are many buyers for Iranian oil now.

And it’s supplying intel, which is already part of the the relationship. If anything, China is disengaged from this conflict.




The problem with advance weaponary is there is a lag until it’s operational especially for a country that doesn’t have the training with that weaponary. We saw this Ukraine where it took soldiers 2-4 months to get trained on NATO equipment before it was deployable.



Assad had two russian airbases and a naval port in Syria. What difference did it make?

A military base can be evacuated. The only guarantee worth anything is a mutual defense clause.

China does not need to sell military supplies. China only needs to selectively control titanium alloys, special steel, rare earth elements, carbon fiber materials, ceramic matrix composites, aluminum powder, magnesium powder, drone parts, and so on in Israel and Iran. That's enough. These are not military supplies, but they can all affect war.

 

[Olympus81]

I am sure the Iranians have been delivered a good numbers of MANPADs.

This will give headaches to the US & Israel.

 

[nervouscar]

AFter watching israel northern campaign persistence one cannot avoid noticing a policy of expansion to north taking lebanon land slowly ...
Interesting book i found online which show alternative greater israel map made by rabbi isaac 1916(on page 318) .here notice borders exceeding far north. This maybe adopted near future policy of israel

 

[ShapurII]

And it’s supplying intel, which is already part of the the relationship.

Nobody is supplying Iran with real-time intel. The number of Americans killed in the US bases around us is the best proof of that.

If Iran had real-time intel, the US casualties would've quickly exceeded 1K-2K with 100-200 deaths.

 

[Goenitz]

PAF should escort the iranian planes and remain in the air over Tehran for atleast 3-4 more hours to ensure everyone reaches their bunkers and secret places.

sure.. However, IDF can breach Iranian airspace by a CM, exactly at the moment when the planes land or the convoy is on the move.
So, it requires more than the air cover.

 

[Brutal.]

No need to blame anyone. The divide was too large to bridge. There is simply no solution.

Why is US hell bent on preventing Irani nukes though? Even N.korea has nukes. Its for deterrence not to blow up other countries.

 

[Wingzero30]

Its very evident that complete destruction of Iran is desired and they wont stop any short of that.

Iran is the final country in the middle east standing against the evil entity's desire for complete domination of the region (Majority of arabs gave up the fight long time ago).

God forbid If Iran were to fall in this war and have pahlavists as the new regime with that cuck Reza installed on the throne, then sadly we will be seeing the whole middle east under the boots of the zionist terrorists for a long time

 

[Goenitz]

According to reports, the United States has presented Iran with a demand for unconditional surrender, including the complete abandonment of uranium enrichment, the unconditional opening of the Strait of Hormuz, and even the refusal to return frozen assets. Araghchi and his men had not foreseen this and were likely dreaming of equal negotiations; Iran has once again been deceived.

if such things are true, then how did negotiations start? as it all started on the premise that Iran's points are workable.
Now, if JD put those demands, it meant he was not as serious as Kushner and Witkoff

 

[ShapurII]

Why is US hell bent on preventing Irani nukes though? Even N.korea has nukes. Its for deterrence not to blow up other countries.

Because it changes the balance of power in the Middle East and the US cannot allow that to happen.

I mean look at this war. Iran is fighting two nuclear states bravely without nukes. Now imagine Iran had nuclear deterrence as well.

if such things are true, then how did negotiations start? as it all started on the premise that Iran's points are workable.
Now, if JD put those demands, it meant he was not as serious as Kushner and Witkoff

The US needed this pause to rearm and regroup and the Chinese forced us to give it to them.

 

[KAL-EL]

Why is US hell bent on preventing Irani nukes though? Even N.korea has nukes. Its for deterrence not to blow up other countries.

I agree it is for deterrence. I guess the US thinks Iran is not irrational actor and will use a nuke the moment it gets one.

To that I say I don't think Iran wants to commit national suicide.

I also think Saudi Arabia and other Middle East nations will then feel the need to go nuclear as well.

 

[TallGuy]

Gentlemen,
first issue at hand is how Pakistan Make sure that Iranians go back safe and sound.

 

[SolarWarden]

I am sure the Iranians have been delivered a good numbers of MANPADs.

This will give headaches to the US & Israel.

Iran already has a cht load on manpads that is not the problem.