Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

Ali_Baba said:
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Trump says US to 'blockade' Strait of Hormuz after talks failed over Iran's nuclear ambitions

Washington says it "will not impede" vessels in the Strait of Hormuz travelling to and from ports of other countries.
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Talks will continue thru the back door channels . There will be more talks Thanks to Pakistan setting up this formal meeting Very unfortunate on here we have people spouting nonsense on Pakistan role being minor. Very frustrating why did we bother at all.
 
The Americans cannot imposed a naval blockage, they barely dared to come within a 1000km range of Iran during the conflict and were basically begging for anyone to come and help. Even if they were able to pull such a thing off and risk pulling the Chinese in the conflict then Iran would simply wipe out any production capacity of Saudis and other regional states to produce the oil. Iran has said for years that if they can’t export their oil the no one else will either.

Trump’s only options at this point is to back off. He is a malignant narcissist so can’t bare the idea of his image being ruined or not being in control so it’s hard to expect rationality from this creature.

John Mearsheimer: TRUMP'S ONLY OPTION IS SURRENDER​


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Aziqbal said:
US has destroyed itself for Israel and its Global image
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Wrong.

USA already attempted Iran war under Obama administration in the beginning of 2010s, and then they did 2015 Iran Deal against Israel will and under same administration.

USA uses Israel when they need, and ignore them when they want. Like USA does with everyone else.

And the narrative of Israel made me do it, it's another made in USA narrative of bullshit.

Why people keep repeating USA bullshit instead start to think by themselves?

USA flood of nonsenses is tiring.
 
Persian Gulf said:
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They should have sent that scum to the bottom of the sea for revenge of the IR navy ship.
 
brazensword said:
Israel is a rational actor? It needs to get punched in the face repeatedly because it does not understand any other way.

Middle East going nuclear, all of them will be the best outcome. Tiny Israel won't be able to dictate terms or bomb anyone just because.
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Israel yes is in fact a rational actor regarding nuclear weapons. Israel has had nuclear weapons for decades and is not used them because it knows it would be committing natural suicide
 
Persian Gulf said:
You are changing the subject to many other things

It’s not right to say that nothing will enter or leave Iran with a naval blockade. That’s all
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What are you two even discussing? The US could sink our ships, but I doubt they’re going to sink Chinese ships with cargo to or from Iran. So how are they to impose a naval blockade on us if China decides that there’s no blockade?
 
Spec Ops said:
They should have sent that scum to the bottom of the sea for revenge of the IR navy ship.
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and I really hope Iran does

we need a mass casualty event on the US side

either uS will leave like they did after the Beirut Bombings back in the 1980s or they will get more sympathy from public for the revenge
 
KAL-EL said:
Israel yes is in fact a rational actor regarding nuclear weapons. Israel has had nuclear weapons for decades and is not used them because it knows it would be committing natural suicide
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You have a low threshold for calling an entity rational. Not being suicidal does not automatically quality one for being rational. Even the lowest life forms have some survival instincts but may otherwise be idiotic. Israelis may not be committing quick suicide by nuking another but they are committing a longer term slower suicide by their actions.

If Israel was truly rationale it would not be initiating so many kinetic warfare against its regional foes.
 
mangekyo said:
What are you two even discussing? The US could sink our ships, but I doubt they’re going to sink Chinese ships with cargo to or from Iran. So how are they to impose a naval blockade on us if China decides that there’s no blockade?
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Good point. We can keep selling our oil on FOB basis.

What if the US blocks all ships though? The British did that during the time of Mosaddegh. They even sank an Italian ship that was coming to our shores.
 
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US Navy to start 'blockading any and all ships' trying to enter or leave Strait of Hormuz, says Trump

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The orange idiots next strategic move - and also in violation of the ceasefire if he tries to do it before the 2 week pause is over ..
 
ShapurII said:
Why did we sign the JCPOA then? Why did we negotiate with the Trump administration twice? Didn't Khamenei say that we would never negotiate with Trump after he killed Gen. Soleimani?

If 700K bpd was bad, try 100K bpd next. And how do you want to do that by the way? Israel was hitting our railway system and roads and will continue to do the same when the war resumes. Textbook siege tactics.

Even if they don't, do you want to send our oil to China through Afghanistan? Does Afghanistan even have the infrastructural capacity for that?
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The China Iran Railway will begin operation in May 2025, with an annual transportation capacity of 50 million tons.

The Gwadar port in Pakistan and the China Pakistan railway can also be used in southern Iran.


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