Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

[Hassan Al-Somal]

 

[SABRE]

Well i would even go futher to opt ghinwa bhutto w/o murtaza bhutto to go along as having lebanese background and ballet aswell get as much leverage and make iran as home ground as fast as possible

There is also a half-Afghani Bhutto in their family.

 

[nervouscar]

SOon we may be learning in books new form of governance Hybrid system(hybrid democracy) , to support state affairs, launched and pioneered in pakistan. And other states like egypt, lebanon may follow.

 

[Dark Knight]

What technology sanctions have been lifted that allows Pakistan to access technology, IP at the same level at India? India can access dual use technology now that Pakistan can only dream of.

What US financial sanctions have been lifted that allow US payment providers to operate in Pakistan? Paypal?

The USA continues to place newer, and newer sanctions on Pakistan for both its missile programme, nuclear programme yet it coninues to transfer those same technologies to India.

I could go on and on.. Nothing fundamentally important has changed. Pakistan has not caught up to have the same access and be treated the same as India by the state institutions of the USA.

We need to get past the "obsession with F16s", and military weapons to actually see the technology access and transfer advantage that India has, that Pakistan has not caught up with.

True, but why don't we go one better.

Why don't we do what the major power's do, learn and develop said technologies domestically. Not be holden to another country and their technology transfer.

We should not need to be held by the hand we should stand on our two feet and hold onto Allah's hand, let him guide us.

I know easier said than done due to our politics.

 

[Meengla]

SOon we may be learning in books new form of governance Hybrid system(hybrid democracy) , to support state affairs, launched and pioneered in pakistan. And other states like egypt, lebanon may follow.

77 million people elected a man-child warmongering Narcist potentially a pervert in the so called the best democracy in the world and with the most meritocratic hiring processes. 77 millions!

 

[RocketLaw]

Got deal?



...(continue).. Security institutions have been told that several high-profile leaders likely to visit Islamabad next week.

 

[Taimoor]

Nuclear deal it seems has been agreed.

 

[Aziqbal]

Pakistan should send a Squadron of JF17 to Turkey

Pakistan is exercising diplomacy but it has to come from the barrel of a gun

 

[Blain2]

Don't want to go into the Pakistani politics but I strongly disagree with you. India had been the darling of America for a quarter century starting 2000 and India also has lot more to offer in terms of $$ than a near bankrupt Pakistan. If you are going to talk about personalities then do note the cold shoulder given to the so-called 'elected' PM of Pakistan before the new govt took over Pakistan. Nothing to do with who was the leader of Pakistan in the last quarter century although it must be said that the Narcisstic President Trump is surely finding the Pakistanis doing flattery quite to his liking--and nothing wrong with that as far as Pakistan is concerned. 70+ F16s have been updated through 2040 due to the flattery.

Make hay while the sun shines! Whether the relation is personality based or interest based (many times they are one and the same), as long as it helps stabilize the region, that is goodness for Pakistan and Iran.

 

[Oracle]

Israil wants war and preparing for it
US wants peace
Iran wants peace with assurity.

So what it's gonna be?

 

[Meengla]

Kudos to the Pakistani journalist Hamid Mir who has been saying for the last 2-3 days that most issues were worked out in Islamabad Talks of April 10/11 except when it came to Lebanon, which was a demand Iran could not have abandoned. So the Israel-Lebanon meeting in Washington under Rubio was a result of that noble Iranian stand; this was the first time Israel-Lebanon directly negotiated in about 40 years, so let's understand the significance of that as it relates to the Islamabad Talks. And I don't think even the Israelis believe the Lebanese govt can disarm Hezbollah but Israelis are getting a figleaf of an agreement for the almost certain ceasefire.
Things are moving really really fast.

 

[side-winder]

 

[Immortals]

 

[maxpane]

so hope this time we can get a peace deal in islamabad . thats a huge relief for whole of the region if we can get peace

 

[Immortals]

so hope this time we can get a peace deal in islamabad . thats a huge reelif for whole of the region if we can get peace

My guess is US is trying to trick Iran to open the strait ahead of time by using the Lebanon ceasefire and falsely saying they will use the Iranian 10 points as a “framework” for future deal. However, once again in Pakistan they will backtrack.

The goal is to get the 200-300M barrels of oil sitting in tankers on the Persian Gulf out of the strait of Hormuz and then start the ground war. Those 200-300M barrels will help blunt the energy shockwave problem and take away another leverage from Iran.

US has been continuously moving assets and troops into the region. They wouldn’t be doing this if they were planning on signing a deal that Iran could accept. The ultimate goal of U.S. is to control Iran’s energy reserves like in Venezuela, the nuclear file is just an excuse.