Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

[dr.coomer]

You will end up losing the higher moral ground.

No one cares about moral high ground anymore, we've already entered into an era of continuous war

 

[I*R*A]

No one cares about moral high ground anymore, we've already entered into an era of continuous war

The world cares. For the time being it is just israel and US forces. These countries have failed to gather support for this illegal attack. They face opposition from their public, their allies, their think tanks and even may be some quarters of their military.

The world won't be able to ignore the sufferings of millions because of the blockade(s), the only option then would be to get the blockade lifted one way or another.

Working towards removal of sanctions is a wise choice and denies enemies the excuses to attack you again and again. Economically stable country can better defend itself and its people.

 

[Frogen]

Iran should work towards getting the sanctions removed. Conserve and Plan long term.

Hormuz blockade may have worked in the short term, but this will backfire when the world starts witnessing the shortages. You will end up losing the higher moral ground.

Back on April 7 at the UN, the US and Japan were pushing for a deal to let a bunch of foreign warships legally head into the strait for "defense." China and Russia used their vetoes to shut it down, basically saving Iran's skin and making sure its sovereignty didn't get officially trashed. But let's be real: with the global economy crashing, China and Russia can't keep playing goalie forever.

 

[clutch]

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[mythbuster]

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China backstabbing Iran. What else is new. Iran was foolish to accept the ceasefire in the first place.

China doesn't owe you any favours , china gains nothing by backstabbing you... it's your big tongue that's your nemesis.

 

[Psyko70]

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China backstabbing Iran. What else is new. Iran was foolish to accept the ceasefire in the first place.

No offense but how is this backstabbing ?

 

[Aziqbal]

Now 3 American aircraft carriers are close to Iran

USS Abraham Lincoln Arabian Sea
USS Gerald Ford Eastern Mediterranean
USS George Bush Arabian Sea further away

At the start of the war there was only 1

This is the first time in 20+ years US has deployed 3 Carriers to the Middle East

Epstein and Zionist regime using talks as cover ?


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[That_Guy]

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China backstabbing Iran. What else is new. Iran was foolish to accept the ceasefire in the first place.

Oh yeah, everyone is back stabbing Iran, even nations that have nothing to do with Iran and are asking for peace.

Are you really this stupid.

 

[That_Guy]

No offense but how is this backstabbing ?

He's been making a bunch of idiotic comments for a while. I'm surprised he's gotten away with it so far.

 

[Michael]

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China backstabbing Iran. What else is new. Iran was foolish to accept the ceasefire in the first place.

So, are you an idiot or a troll?


中共中央政治局委员、外交部长王毅15日同伊朗外长阿拉格齐通电话。

阿拉格齐通报了伊美谈判最新情况及伊方下步考虑，表示伊方愿通过和平谈判方式，继续寻求理性、现实的解决方案。伊方高度赞赏中方一直以来为推动局势缓和降温所作努力，期待中方为促和止战发挥积极作用。

王毅表示，中方一如既往支持伊朗维护自身主权安全和民族尊严。习近平主席郑重提出关于维护和促进中东和平稳定的四点主张，为化解危机贡献了中国方案。当前局势来到战和转换的关键阶段，和平窗口正在打开。中方支持保持停火和谈判势头，这符合伊朗人民根本利益，也是地区国家和国际社会共同期盼。伊朗作为霍尔木兹海峡沿岸国家的主权安全和合法权益应得到尊重和维护，同时，国际通行海峡的航行自由与安全也应得到保障，努力恢复海峡的正常过航是国际社会的一致呼声。中方愿本着习近平主席四点主张精神，继续推动局势缓和，促进地区国家改善关系，为最终实现中东地区持久和平稳定发挥建设性作用。

Google Translate:

Wang Yi, Member of the Political Bureau of the CPC Central Committee and Foreign Minister, held a telephone conversation with Iranian Foreign Minister Araghchi on the 15th.

Araghchi briefed Wang on the latest developments in the negotiations between Iran and the United States, as well as Iran's considerations for the next steps. He stated that Iran remains willing to continue seeking rational and realistic solutions through peaceful negotiations. The Iranian side highly appreciates the efforts China has consistently made to promote de-escalation and ease tensions, and looks forward to China playing a positive role in fostering peace and preventing conflict.

Wang Yi stated that China, as always, supports Iran in safeguarding its sovereignty, security, and national dignity. President Xi Jinping has solemnly put forward a four-point proposal for maintaining and promoting peace and stability in the Middle East, thereby contributing a "Chinese solution" to resolving the crisis. The current situation has reached a critical juncture—a transition point between war and peace—and a window for peace is opening. China supports maintaining the momentum of both the ceasefire and the negotiations; this aligns with the fundamental interests of the Iranian people and reflects the shared aspirations of regional countries and the international community. As a littoral state of the Strait of Hormuz, Iran's sovereignty, security, and legitimate rights and interests must be respected and safeguarded; at the same time, freedom of navigation and security in this internationally recognized strait must also be guaranteed, and striving to restore normal transit through the strait is the unanimous call of the international community. Guided by the spirit of President Xi Jinping's four-point proposal, China stands ready to continue promoting de-escalation, facilitating the improvement of relations among regional countries, and playing a constructive role in ultimately achieving lasting peace and stability in the Middle East.

 

[Persian Gulf]

5 IDF terrorists injured in Hezbollah rocket strike in south Lebanon

 

[ChineseTiger1986]

Understandable to get more cooperation with US as Indonesia has program like KF21/IFX where cooperation with US will smooth things, previous problem is due to US tech restriction as some critical components still come from US and SK got F35 tech as well.



Come on dude, there will be no invasion, unless for that smal island critical for Iran oil and gas export.....but I doubt US will do it as I believe US at this stage doesnt want escalation any more, the war is not popular to US public

US objective is to make Iran becomes weak, so no threat to Israel. Nothing worth comes up in invading Iran as it is large nation with around 80 million people.

While the motive I see as pure revenge from US and Israel leadership point of view with US/ Trump see Iran Mullah regime keep chanting dead to America for decades and other things as Trump like to mention while Israel see it as Iran is big supporter of both Hisbullah and Hamas that prefer military conflict as method to resist from Israel occupation ( not non military method like Fatah and Lebanon Sunni factions)

Ask the gulf countries about their cooperation with the US.

Even multi-trillion of tribute to the US couldn't even exchange for safety.

 

[IceCold]

Not sure if it's shared before.

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The funny thing about this is that Trump does not even pretend to name Shahbaz, who is supposedly the PM of Pakistan, to be the man in charge, and names the FM directly to be doing a great job.

 

[Frogen]

Ask the gulf countries about their cooperation with the US.

Even multi-trillion of tribute to the US couldn't even exchange for safety.

Military cooperation between the US and Indonesia is technically Indonesia’s own business, and China shouldn't be sticking its nose in. But I honestly can’t wrap my head around how a proposal to give the US military "unrestricted access to Indonesian airspace" even made it to the discussion table. This kind of request is clearly just clearing the path for US military action against China; there’s no way the Indonesian military is that clueless about the strategic intentions behind this.

 

[Persian Gulf]

Unprecedented Low in Israel's Standing in the US:

40 out of 47 Democratic Senators voted tonight against supplying bulldozers to the IDF
36 out of 47 Democratic Senators voted against supplying bombs to the IDF
No Democratic Senator considering a presidential run voted this evening in favor of supplying weapons to Israel