Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

[Immortals]

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[nervouscar]

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Time wasters.. sucking our resources and blood of innocents

 

[Immortals]

Jared and Steve are going to offer Iran one last deal — which may very well fail and not be a whole lot different than the Feb 2026/June 2025 surrender deal they keep putting on the table.

Then Trump will once again attack Iran.

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Looks like Vance is going as well — conflicting reports initially if he would be leading the delegation

 

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[Flotilla]

Has there ever been a worse set of diplomatic envoys than Witkoff, Kushner, and Vance? The first two are seemingly only there for the vibes, and Vance seemed to spend most of his time sleeping off the jet-lag and on the phone to Netanyahu during the last round.

They´re people from MAGA movements, bussiness people and devoted to their party. They´re neither skilled diplomats nor high informed people about all the History of Middle East.

They failed miserably in dealing with Russia and probably will fail again. Maybe JD Vance can act a bit with enough autonomy and authority to suggest Trump some realistic outcome.

How Jared Kushner, Steve Witkoff see the world

The countries and actors may be different, but the general idea — that diplomacy is similar to a business deal — is the same.

www.politico.com

Let´s see. But if they just came for convincing iranians to just give up all nuclear program and deliver the enriched uranium stock, the deal is doomed.

 

[Immortals]

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[nervouscar]

Pakistan would do well to keep away from an entanglement with Israel, Pakistan can barely keep India at bay. Help the Arabs be able to better look after themselves, but Pakistan security issue will always be India and we should not lose focus of that.

Only a heavy weapons and huge numver of targets can ensure pakistan survivibility against many foes and possible victory.. by eliminating major concentrations of enemies assets
HHHHH POLICY NEED OF HOUR
GO HEAVY ON MISSILE SIZES
GO HUGE ON IMPACT ON EVERY STRIKE
GO HAZARDOUS ON EVERY EXPLOSIONS
GO HARD OF SELECTED TARGETS
HURRY!!

 

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[Aryan_B]

Bro, if it comes to that it'll be an absolute bloodbath.
I do think its inevitable though, so Pakistan better start preparing pronto. Its time we move our focus away from India, and concentrate our resources to this threat.

we can do both. Use Saudi money to raise say another 350K troops and assets

 

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Looks like Vance is going as well — conflicting reports initially if he would be leading the delegation

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Yeah there is no deal to be had. JD Vance not going is a big red flag in my opinion.

“Security reasons”, is a bullshit excuse.

 

[baqai]

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one more tech to capture and reverse engineer hehe

 

[Meengla]

Hence proven that despite all the fiscal leverage the gulfies have on us they can never get us to jeapordize our national security policy. So many people on this forum alone werre talking about how Pakistan would be forced to fight Iran by gulfies because they have us by a leash but we continuously prove them wrong.

Gulfies can't afford to lose Pakistan and Pakistan can't afford to lose Iran but Pakistan can afford to lose the Gulfies. It would be a big hit to lose the Gulfies due to the remittances but Pakistan would manage in some kind of Economic Martial Law.
Anyway, this is all hypothetical.

 

[F.O.X]

Hence proven that despite all the fiscal leverage the gulfies have on us they can never get us to jeapordize our national security policy. So many people on this forum alone werre talking about how Pakistan would be forced to fight Iran by gulfies because they have us by a leash but we continuously prove them wrong.

Pakistan does not compromise on its national security, Period.

 

[Immortals]

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Yeah there is no deal to be had. JD Vance not going is a big red flag in my opinion.

“Security reasons”, is a bullshit excuse.

And now the White House is saying Vance is going.

What a clown show. First he wasn’t, then they say he is, then Trump says he isn’t, now White House is saying Trump got it wrong

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