Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

[Shags101]

in my opinion, at best there will be an extension of the ceasefire. it's not possible to negotiate such a massive deal in only a few weeks. and the US is still insisting on its maximalist and unrealistic conditions. so I don't see how a deal can be made currently.

Ceasefire can be broken at any moment whenever Trump or Bibi decide to if there is no deal in the next 48 hours even if they “agree” to a ceasefire expect them to launch an attack soon after they will make the straits as their new excuse to attack Iran

 

[Master Chief]

Ceasefire can be broken at any moment whenever Trump or Bibi decide to if there is no deal in the next 48 hours even if they “agree” to a ceasefire expect them to launch an attack soon after they will make the straits as their new excuse to attack Iran

This is precisely the plan. Extend the ceasefire. Extend the status quo. Extend the war without spooking the markets.

Look at the Israeli methodology. They have ceasefires in Gaza and Lebanon. Both of those ceasefires are worthless. Israel breaks the ceasefires perpetually and the media ignores it, therefore the markets are less spooked.

What matters in the Gulf is if Iran can inflict enough genuine market pain during this "ceasefire" or if USA can find a way to nullify that effort.

 

[Persian Gulf]

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this is better from Ghalibaf.

don't humiliate Iran, this is a war of years, not one month.

 

[Magi]

Ceasefire can be broken at any moment whenever Trump or Bibi decide to if there is no deal in the next 48 hours even if they “agree” to a ceasefire expect them to launch an attack soon after they will make the straits as their new excuse to attack Iran

How many time are we going to get fooled by ceasefires and so called deals?

The plan to destroy Iran goes back decades. The destructions of Iraq and Syria, AQ and Isis, millions killed and billions upon billions spent to get to this point. They will not stop now. What is an agreement worth when we know they will tear it up because they have not achieved their goals?

We know what they need. The total nullification of Iran. And this is a zero sum game. The destruction of empire and its dollar system is the alternative. The military response by Iran this time is only a temporary setback. They will recalibrate and attack again.

 

[Hassan Al-Somal]

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This whole thing could be a psyop where they want to pass the information to the IRGC that if you don't hurry up to sign Trump's demands, he could resort to nukes. But if we deeply look at it, it is an indication that Trump was desperate and has no other cards that he could use to pressure the IRGC to accept his demands.

 

[Immortals]

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[Aryan_B]

UAE Minister Reem Al Hashemi:- The UAE has received more attacks from Iran than any other country, including Israel, with a total of 2800 rockets and drones- We used our oil wealth for economic prosperity.- Iran is a pariah state.. They wanted to break the UAE model.- More than 90% of the strikes targeted civilian facilities.

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UAE deserves it

 

[Master Chief]

UAE deserves it

That "minister" of theirs is one of the vilest looking and sounding individuals I ever did see.

 

[Homajon]

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Seems like an Iranian Jewish girl, probably she belongs to the Jewish TV station that Iran introduced a while ago, which is the reason she has access to global internet

 

[Hassan Al-Somal]

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this is better from Ghalibaf.

don't humiliate Iran, this is a war of years, not one month.

"Trump, by imposing a siege and violating the ceasefire, seeks to turn this negotiating table— in his own imagination— into a table of surrender or to justify renewed warmongering. We do not accept negotiations under the shadow of threats, and in the past two weeks, we have prepared to reveal new cards on the battlefield."


It looks like either Iran obtained/developed a new air defense system, anti-ship missiles, or achieved another milestone they won't exactly state. Ghalibaf could be hinting something here.

 

[Aryan_B]

What was the purpose of opening the Strait and plunging oil prices other than undermining armed forces' strategy? These talks are shameful. Qalibaf, Pezeshkian and Araghchi look more like Delcy by the day. These reformists are the same people that signed the JCPOA. Why are they allowed to negotiate again?

Original deal was cease fire applied to Lebanon and also Straits were too be opened. When cease fire for lebanon Iran complied with deal and opened Straits but then dickhead orange luny decided to block the Straits for anything leaving Iran so then Iran blocked all

 

[Aryan_B]

Given that there is a China to Iran rail link, and China has large transports that can deliver to Iran directly, I can't see there being any "special cargo", other than chemicals that Iran could use in missile manufacturing..

i thought ship was leaving Iran

 

[ChineseTiger1986]

China needs to extend its economic corridor from Pakistan to Iran.

 

[Immortals]

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[Magi]

Original deal was cease fire applied to Lebanon and also Straits were too be opened. When cease fire for lebanon Iran complied with deal and opened Straits but then dickhead orange luny decided to block the Straits for anything leaving Iran so then Iran blocked all

Ceasefire in Lebanon? They inflicted months worth of destruction in days before pausing. Even the pause was an attack through a deal with the corrupt Lebanese government at the expense of the axis. An equivalent action by Iran would be to sink every single ship stranded in the Persian Gulf and mine the entire Strait first then announce the Strait is open. But Iran appears unable or unwilling to reciprocate equally.

And to what end? Action will resume in Lebanon in short order. This war will only end once a side is rendered incapable of causing harm.