Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

[Persian Gulf]

 

[Meengla]

Wise countries now should prepare for a strong Iran that may well now permanantly control Hormuz.
Saudis and Qataris are taking a soft approach to Iran and also allying with Pakistan as a back up.

Unless there is a regime change in Iran, the Strait is Iran's. Geography has trumped all else.
And, indeed, Pakistan is working on a post-war order in the Gulf.

 

[Oldenwisdom...قول بزرگ]

True but IRGC is in control

The implication that is being amplified by Fox for the orange man is that he is the coherent one....who's got it all together and Iranians can't get it together...
Iranians will have to learn to direct the narrative or get ahead of curve instead of orange talking to his hand. He just made up another story and later a win for his bubble about 8 about to be "hung"...

 

[Lulldapull]

So 2nd aircraft carrier in position now?

Man 2nd or tenth?

Navy is just so junk now no?

Irans just laughing I bet.

 

[Lulldapull]

Unless there is a regime change in Iran, the Strait is Iran's. Geography has trumped all else.
And, indeed, Pakistan is working on a post-war order in the Gulf.

Bilkul

Shukar hae we gotta border we’ll be alright no matter what

 

[Mobius]

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[KingQamaR]

Unless there is a regime change in Iran, the Strait is Iran's. Geography has trumped all else.
And, indeed, Pakistan is working on a post-war order in the Gulf.

What was the point of US degrading their military if they just upgraded their strategic economic leverage? Irans knew ruler only more entrenched and radicalised now. What a mess. Iran giving a master class on how to be David vs Goliath

 

[Fatman17]

President Trump’s decision to extend a fragile cease-fire with Iran while maintaining his blockade of the country ushers in a damaging new phase of the conflict for the global economy.

Read more: https://on.wsj.com/4e4P7ty

 

[Immortals]

Another Iranian tanker has been seized overnight

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[Immortals]

 

[Pak-Warrior]

Unless there is a regime change in Iran, the Strait is Iran's. Geography has trumped all else.
And, indeed, Pakistan is working on a post-war order in the Gulf.

Iran is not benefiting from it anymore. Iran had a brief golden time during the war when it was exporting its oil while stopping or tolling others.

With that leverage, Iran was hoping to extract a lot in negotiations. But US has practically negated this leverage by placing a blockade over Iran itself. Now US says this blockade will only lift when Iran agrees to all of its terms including free passage of strait.

Iran cannot do any exports at all with its control over strait while US is doing business as usual and exporting record amount of oil.

US can escalate it exponentially if Iran do not submit. They can start by creating No fly zone over Iran. So zero sea and air trade. Then if war breaks out, they can just turn Tehran into rubble. Iran cannot hit back at US, it can just hit at GCC to put pressure. This is not equivalent to hitting US. No US citizens are at risk.

I think Iran would have been in a lot more powerful position, if it had capability to hit and sink US warships at long distance (1000 km). Then blockade could have been challenged and also US would not easily give civilization end threats etc. Right now, Iran just cannot retaliate. It already did what it could do by hitting US bases in the region. I don't think those bases has anything left to hit anymore. Whether it was destroyed or moved away to safety. Iran needs peace time, so it can build its long range anti-ship capability and air defense. Along with more modern / faster BMs.

 

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[Meengla]

What was the point of US degrading their military if they just upgraded their strategic economic leverage? Irans knew ruler only more entrenched and radicalised now. What a mess. Iran giving a master class on how to be David vs Goliath

The war itself is a mess and a war for Israel and maybe even for Netanyahu himself. I see no 'victory' for America unless they decide on carpet bombing and/or nuking Iran in multiple places.
While the war hawks in America like John Bolton think the American Blockade was needed, even India's General Bakshi is spot on: Trump destroyed his own off ramp by doing the Blockade.

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[ShapurII]

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This is literally a public statement on the violation of ceasefire and yet Iran is doing nothing in response.

 

[Meengla]

Iran is not benefiting from it anymore. Iran had a brief golden time during the war when it was exporting its oil while stopping or tolling others.
With that leverage, Iran was hoping to extract a lot in negotiations. But US has practically negated this leverage by placing a blockade over Iran itself. Now US says this blockade will only lift when Iran agrees to all of its terms including free passage of strait.

Please see my post above with General Bakshi in it.
Iran has the time but the world economy as well as the US navy resources enforcing the Blockade are more pressed for the time. And time matters a great deal here. Essentially, Iran, as a state, is moving to a guerilla war mode due to its lack of options, of which the inability to do major damage to Israel, at least so far demonstrated.