Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

[RocketLaw]

5 hours ago

Laundry issue again

 

[delta2]

At least in case of the Vietnam War, there was the staged Gulf of Tonkien. And in many other wars--wars on communism and wars on terror--there were attempts to rally the American support and even try to get some support in the UN.
But this war on Iran is launched without hardly making a 'case' for it. No 'manufacturing consent' this time. And that shows how dangerous and arrogant Donald Trump is. He is acting like Netanyahu acts in Gaza, in the West Bank, and in Lebanon, and now also Netanyahu acts like that in Syria.

The American people hated the Vietnam war because of the draft. They will hate the war against Iran once oil hits $12 and the workers start burning down warehouses.

The only way to end this war and for peace to prevail is for Iran to test a nuke. Otherwise none of this makes sense. Iran is being threatened by a nuclear Super Power with an unmatched military power but somehwow is not concerned about its cities being turned into radioactive wastelands.

Something is missing in the picture. The whole thing is not making sense.

 

[Abid123]

uh-huh..and you aren't worried about Iran's nuclear program...with those semi-independent entities" lurking about...able to fire missiles at Pakistan.

I am worried about you white imperialistic bastards and what you have been doing in this region for decades.

 

[PakistanLVR]

Wake up, Honey - New indian cope just dropped!

 

[PakistanLVR]

You forgot to read the post i responded to.
Let me put it straight for you:
Taliban were harboured in Pakistan giving them much needed breathing space to survive.
Now since Iran is under naval blockade, opening land trade routes gives them breathing space and that's a ridiculous thing to do.

It's like my neighbor fired bullets on me, although I responded in kind, but if he gets in deadlock somewhere else - i would be stupid to support him out.

NGL - you sound ret*rded. Are you indian?

 

[Hamartia Antidote]

I am worried about you white imperialistic bastards and what you have been doing in this region for decades.

Usually making the world go ‘round instead of standing still for centuries.

 

[Watandar]

Usually making the world go ‘round instead of standing still for centuries.

that's one view of imperialism, slavery, theft of native resources.

 

[Hazard]

Salalah attack was a pressure check tactic and a humiliation ritual, which is at the core of the ideology plaguing this planet currently, to see if Pakistan would play dead or assert, Pakistan asserted itself and did not play dead. Otherwise the theater of operations would have expanded far deeper into Pakistan.

You can have the most advanced types of weapons but if your soldiers do not have food to eat after three days, life becomes something else.

Saddam didn't have hundreds and hundreds or possibly 1000 nukes with reliable delivery mechanisms with various city ending capacities as well as stockpiles of chemical and biologal weapons to end life. If things come to that, the population of this planet would be reduced by at least 1.25 Billion on the eastern side of Pakistan and by about 40 to 100 million looking westward. Europe's atmosphere would also change permanently and many capitals of the world will disappear from reality. So that outcome is not desired by many, despite their mythological beliefs in some messiah who can be forced to reveal himself, they will not risk such a suicidal mission.

North Korea has just a few, 12 to 35, nukes, and everyone had decided to leave them alone. NK will eventually become a Vietnam because they have no political instability.

Pakistan asserted itself? By doing what exactly? Closing the land border for a mere month or so? Pakistan didn't even close its airspace to NATO, never mind responding militarily. Pakistan had nukes then but yet that didn't stop the yanks from humiliating Pakistan publicly and that wasn't a one off incident, OBL raid, drone strikes etc to name other few. Another point most Pakistanis forget is that whilst we do have nukes, we currently have NO reliable system to deliver these outside our own region.

Pakistan's military 'might' is nothing against US, Nato etc. I'd say no country can currently take on US with or without nukes, not even China.

 

[delta2]

Usually making the world go ‘round instead of standing still for centuries.

Took their whole continent into the dark ages for centuries and their pope declared it illegal to shower and bathe because the "heathens" (meaning Muslims) did it on a daily basis. Were famous for having kingd and queens showering once a year or even less, that is until they met Muslims and came into Muslim lands.

The mighty Derwaish Muslims Kings and especially the Mughals used to deliver regular beatings to a Brahmin of their choice once a month and hang them upside down to remind them they were no better than the Sudrahs.

That ancestral pain resulting from those beatings is bound to have caused some error in judgment.

 

[delta2]

Pakistan asserted itself? By doing what exactly? Closing the land border for a mere month or so. Pakistan didn't even close its airspace to NATO, never mind responding militarily. Pakistan had nukes then but yet that didn't stop the yanks from humiliating Pakistan publicly and that wasn't a one off incident, OBL raid, drone strikes etc to name other few. Another point most Pakistanis forget is that whilst we do have nukes, we currently have NO reliable system to deliver these outside our own region.

Pakistan's military 'might' is nothing against US, Nato etc. I'd say no country can currently take on US with or without nukes, not even China.

Cutting off the supply lines to a Super Power on a religious mission backed up by the next 30 countries is no small task.

If you are living in the West, to give you an example of what exactly Pakistan did, you go try blocking an enteance to a bank and see what happens to you and your family. That is if you are living in the West.

In the East the guard will just put a bullet in your head. In the USA you will be shot too but in the rest of the West, they will lock you up in a mental facility for decades.

That is exactly Pakistan did, got in their way and increases their costs, one thing the Zionists love more than their own mothers is their money.

Still the Americans claimed it was the Pakistani soldiers who fired first. But it was 100% either a roided up drugged up crusade believing fundamentalist in the American/NATO uniform or the Afghan Nationap Army drug addicted scum who opened the fire first.

The point is, they did not repeat such an incident.


You are dead wrong on nukes. These are reality altering weapons. They will change the way the face of the earth looks like.

Better to not risk a nuclear exchange. Besides, cannot survive in bunkers 100s of kilometers underground if the ventilation exhausts have been melted into stones.

 

[kobra]

Wake up, Honey - New indian cope just dropped!

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Oh Dear! There is no depth to which these irrelevant bottlers wont sunk...pathetic.

 

[RocketLaw]

Pakistan asserted itself? By doing what exactly? Closing the land border for a mere month or so? Pakistan didn't even close its airspace to NATO, never mind responding militarily. Pakistan had nukes then but yet that didn't stop the yanks from humiliating Pakistan publicly and that wasn't a one off incident, OBL raid, drone strikes etc to name other few. Another point most Pakistanis forget is that whilst we do have nukes, we currently have NO reliable system to deliver these outside our own region.

Pakistan's military 'might' is nothing against US, Nato etc. I'd say no country can currently take on US with or without nukes, not even China.

Incorrect - actually I remember that land border was completely closed for 6 months (November 2011 til July 2012) AND yes we closed its airspace to NATO/US + their Shamsi airfield base.

US apologized it after 6 months and regretted it.

Please google first, please double check and verify it before typing nonsense.

 

[delta2]

A little offtopic but... when the Pakistanis stopped the NATO supplies over the Salalah incident for months, the Americans, with the Russian consent, started the alternate long and expensive resupply route through the Russian sphere of influence. And after the Americans left Afghanistan in August 2021, six months later the Russia-Ukraine war started, which has caused huge casualties to the Russians, no small thanks to the Americans.
Russians are such strategic thinkers. NOT! People talks about the supine Arab regimes. At least some excuses could be made for the Arab countries. But look at the ultimate cuck nation with the largest number of nukes in the world: Russia. Clinging to the hope to be accepted by the West since Peter the Great but keep getting rejected and keep getting killed in wars after wars launched on them.

Brother you are deeply mistaken.

Putin is a Chabad cult member and wears that readish/pink string on his wrist "blessed" and given to him by his Chabad Rabbi. Putin is doing exactly what is required of him to do: Eliminate men in Ukraine, destroy the nation so the most fertile land of Europe can be bought out at pennies, which they already have purchased.

Pakistan should have helped the Ukrainians take down a lot more Russians with them, but alas, the chance was missed.

This is an old article but worth a read. It gives some highlights. You connect the dots yourself after reading it.

The Happy-Go-Lucky Jewish Group That Connects Trump and Putin

Where Trump's real estate world meets a top religious ally of the Kremlin.

www.politico.com

Also see this

https://www.timesofisrael.com/putin-fires-top-official-who-describes-chabad-as-a-supremacist-cult/

 

[Hazard]

Cutting off the supply lines to a Super Power on a religious mission backed up by the next 30 countries is no small task.

If you are living in the West, to give you an example of what exactly Pakistan did, you go try blocking an enteance to a bank and see what happens to you and your family. That is if you are living in the West.

In the East the guard will just put a bullet in your head. In the USA you will be shot too but in the rest of the West, they will lock you up in a mental facility for decades.

That is exactly Pakistan did, got in their way and increases their costs, one thing the Zionists love more than their own mothers is their money.

Still the Americans claimed it was the Pakistani soldiers who fired first. But it was 100% either a roided up drugged up crusade believing fundamentalist in the American/NATO uniform or the Afghan Nationap Army drug addicted scum who opened the fire first.

The point is, they did not repeat such an incident.

No, I'm sorry but that's just cope. You had one military that was pounding our soldiers and our top command was literally on the hot line begging Americans to stop. And our response was to close the borders - if you find that an acceptable response then I don't know what to say.

And no, they didn't need to repeat again, they humiliated us enough and continued to do so by using our OWN bases against our OWN citizens every single day, whilst we sat down and watched. This is utterly pathetic and shameful past of our nation. If you want to know what an appropriate response is, look next door at Iranians. That's what you call having self respect.

My point is simple, we're no match against major world countries and we need to humble ourself and accept the bitter reality, whilst at the same time work hard to improve the state of our nation.

 

[Hazard]

Incorrect - actually I remember that land border was completely closed for 6 months (November 2011 til July 2012) AND yes we closed its airspace to NATO/US + their Shamsi airfield base.

US apologized it after 6 months and regretted it.

Please google first, please double check and verify it before typing nonsense.

Yes, land border was closed. I didn't dispute that, but is that an acceptable response to a nation that has literally slaughtered your soldiers? Seriously? I'm lost for words.

And no, there was no 'official' apology, just 'regrets' - not that I'd ever accept an apology to begin with.