Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

Zartosht said:
Iranian money: worthless

Iranian passport: less then worthless

Iranian entertainment, arts, personal freedoms: heavily constrained by the government

Inflation: endless

Jobs: non-existent

War, sanctions and endless uncertainty: permanent state of Iran post-revolution

Nuclear program: hundreds of billions spent, and possibly trillions in sanctions and opportunity losses.. result: some worthless dirt that destroyed Irans economy with no benefit of a nuclear bomb..

The Iranian government has absolutely failed miserably and historically in every imaginable metric except for : independence and internal security (big stuff like insurgency, regional separatism etcc).

Now that Iran has become the new lebanon thanks to their stupidity where the US and israel will bomb and “ mow the lawn “ as they please every 6 months….. what doees the government have left to offer the Iranian people?

Iranians are extremely patriotic and will rally around the flag when an outside threat emerges. But once that dies down, the full wrath and frustration are going to come down like an avalanche.

The IR regine thinks this temporary boost in national unity is permenant. And is gravely miscalculating if they think Iranians are going to accept another 40 years of khamenei Incompetence….

It is remarkable how badly they have played their hand in this war…. They had everything going for them and they completely pissed it away
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Is this ironic post, or real comparison between Iran and Lebanon, leveling up the internal division to same level in both countries...

Dreams about Iranian internal military clashes and fragmentation of regions against Tehran central government died immediately when they were projected, early 90' of the previous century...only Ballochis and some Kurdish fractions may have such wishes, and both of them are not strictly Iranian issues, but regional and so they couldn't be counted here...
 
Fatman17 said:
Wow. Lots of confidence. Iranian military composition is very different from Pakistan. Pakistan is more conventional and the US may have a better idea of how to deal with it. The Iranians completely surprised the US.
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Pakistan must have tricks up its sleeves

Fair enough we have nuclear weapons as a safe guard,
But if we simply rely on our airforce or conventional means, and they get hit in war then we have a problem

For all the harm inflicted on Iran, Iran has the ability to use drones and missiles to harm U.S bases and interests and allies and cause economic chaos regardless of how hard they hit Iran
 
Fatman17 said:
Wow. Lots of confidence. Iranian military composition is very different from Pakistan. Pakistan is more conventional and the US may have a better idea of how to deal with it. The Iranians completely surprised the US.
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There is only one way they can go on a full scale war with Pakistan, it is via India.

There is no way their aircraft carriers and amphibious ships be of any threat. If anything, Iran has proved they were sitting ducks.

This is where Pakistan Armed Rocket Force will be vital.
 
Fatman17 said:
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Yesterday was annouced that US President will withdraw from Germany 5.000 troops.

Also in a separate statement he annouced that EU was not fulfilling the US/UE deal about tariffs and therefore he will increase from 15 to 25% tariffs in EU cars.

I am sure both decisions have been took for economical reasons. War is being much more costly than expected and he needs more money to keep his blockade in Irán. If they want to maintain tens of warships and thousands of troops deployed around Persian Gulf he need much more money tham expected.

So more withdraws are expected and probably more tariffs.
 
Flotilla said:
Yesterday was annouced that US President will withdraw from Germany 5.000 troops.

Also in a separate statement he annouced that EU was not fulfilling the US/UE deal about tariffs and therefore he will increase from 15 to 25% tariffs in EU cars.

I am sure both decisions have been took for economical reasons. War is being much more costly than expected and he needs more money to keep his blockade in Irán. If they want to maintain tens of warships and thousands of troops deployed around Persian Gulf he need much more money tham expected.

So more withdraws are expected and probably more tariffs.
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He is just helping Europeans wake up and realise they cannot rely on a crazy USA and need independent military and independent policies
 
Fatman17 said:
Wow. Lots of confidence. Iranian military composition is very different from Pakistan. Pakistan is more conventional and the US may have a better idea of how to deal with it. The Iranians completely surprised the US.
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As we saw, Pakistan is more then capable of surprising people as well, and our undersea strength is becoming solid. Ad nukes to that and I think Pakistan would be a harder nut to crack
 
RocketLaw said:
Chinese inflatable decoy units are so advanced they even emit a radio and heat signature.

China may not be selling real weapons to Iran but reportedly Iran imported over 900,000 inflatable decoys from China —including tanks, missile launchers, and ballistic missiles.

The U.S. military is spending millions on high-tech missiles just to pop Chinese balloons!

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Yes, very underestimated aspect of the conflict, and even Yugoslavia(Serbia) was very successful in wasting American hyper-expensive weapons with decoys, preserving surprisingly good percentages of their military inventory...

But this is win-win position for both China and Iran, China has chance to test if their military capability is catching up Americans, Iran is willing to deliver it in American bases and zionistic entity, some high level technology is Iranian gain from the conflict with importance for their future development...

Iran is becoming real military badass, in real positive sense, shockingly being able to fight with the superpower on equal foot...

Iran is reshaping global geopolitical postulates, with unselfish Trump's miscalculated steps and there is no back to previous state anymore...
For many American bases there is literally no back in totally devastated military installations across the region...

But Iranian regional supremacy is cemented now for good...
 
vmro said:
Yes, very underestimated aspect of the conflict, and even Yugoslavia(Serbia) was very successful in wasting American hyper-expensive weapons with decoys, preserving surprisingly good percentages of their military inventory...
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Decoys aren't a new strategy.

Sure but did the real ones become military useful or just stashed away and about as useful as a stack of bricks while other military infrastructure was destroyed.
 
Persian Gulf said:
He is just helping Europeans wake up and realise they cannot rely on a crazy USA and need independent military and independent policies
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They would accept own military impotence, no question about it, but European economy is becoming increasingly irrelevant and staggered by ordered isolation of Russia, which left Europe without oil and it's getting just worse with this war with Iran... Europe has no resources, so its position is doomed now...

Now they are aware that their pockets are collateral damage of American imperial ambitions, and that's the red alert for them...
 
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President of the USA: we are like pirates
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Trump : we are like pirates, but they are the bullies. Maths is not matching.
 
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