Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

[Neojinnah]

No one needs an American conservative who has spent decades being a cheerleader for warfare and genocide to tell them that US foreign policy is the biggest existential threat to the planet. American talking heads don't deserve any following. Tune them out. Don't let them dictate the narrative. This is a country which has ravaged Korea, Vietnam, Iraq, Afghanistan, Sudan, Gaza, Lebanon, etc. The list goes on. This is just another cycle of genocide and terror which they are trying to launder responsibility for by parading a few obnoxious paid American dissenters and activists to make it look like these wars aren't overwhelmingly supported by the American people.

 

[FUB]

Good riddance!
On his way to Baal

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[Persian Gulf]

Iranian military commanders / leaders (MG = Major General, BG = Brigadier General):

Secretary of the Supreme National Security Council: BG Mohammad Bagher Zolghadr
Commander of Khatam al-Anbiya Central HQ: MG Ali Abdollahi
Deputy Commander of Khatam al-Anbiya Central HQ: BG Kioumars Heydari
Chief of Staff of Iranian Armed Forces: MG Habibollah Sayyari (speculated)
Deputy Chief of Staff of Iranian Armed Forces: BG Mohammad Reza Ashtiani
Minister of Defence: BG Majid Ebn-e-Reza
Deputy Minister of Defence: BG Reza Talaei-Nik
Military Advisors to the Supreme Leader: MG Yahya Safavi, MG Mohsen Rezaee, MG Ali Jafari, BG Ali Fadavi (and others)
Commander of FARAJA (Iranian police): BG Ahmad-Reza Radan

Commander in Chief of the IRGC: BG Ahmad Vahidi
Commander of the IRGC-ASF: BG Majid Mousavi
Commander of IRGC-ASF Space Command: BG Ali Jafarabadi
Commander of IRGC Ground Force: BG Mohammad Karami
Commander of IRGC Qods Force: BG Esmail Qaani

Commander in Chief of Iranian Army: MG Amir Hatami
Deputy Commander in Chief of Iranian Army: BG Mohammad Hossein Dadras
Commander of Iranian Ground Forces: BG Ali Jahanshahi
Commander of Iranian Navy: MG Shahram Irani
Commander of Iranian Air Force: BG Bahman Bahmard
Commander of Iranian Air Defence Force: BG Alireza Elhami

this list does not include the main political leaders (such as Qalibaf, Ejei, Araghchi, Pezeshkian, and others).

 

[Persian Gulf]

Why are you laughing? Anything funny about the school children you killed? I am sure other members here would like to know @Hamartia Antidote

laughing at the massacre of Iranian school children is unacceptable. @Hamartia Antidote is thread banned.

 

[Persian Gulf]

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[Flotilla]

In that list there's pharmaceuticals, Biotech, microchips, industrial/automotive engineering, aerospace, military, Finance/FINTech, telecoms, consumer food/retail goods..

Are people understanding the picture yet?

It's not "they don't do anything"...it's more like they "do everything"...except people are perpetually closing their eyes to it in complete denial.

Shut up. If you pay their army, their wars and their social security, their universities, all their savings can be spent in R&D and even in golden trains and ivory planes.

Stop spreading propaganda.

 

[Immortals]

Iran back under maximum pressure.

What was the point of the ceasefire? At least during war Iran wasn’t under a blockade and was selling its oil freely.

This is why I despise Iran’s negotiating team, they keep getting duped by the Americans. At this point they might as well be US spies disgusted as Iranian patriots.

Should have kept fighting. Instead you are under a blockade with no ways to respond and hope that oil goes high enough to get Trump to negotiate.

 

[BHAN85]

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Epstein Air Force takes off

 

[Persian Gulf]

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Iran back under maximum pressure.

What was the point of the ceasefire? At least during war Iran wasn’t under a blockade and was selling its oil freely.

This is why I despise Iran’s negotiating team, they keep getting duped by the Americans. At this point they might as well be US spies disgusted as Iranian patriots.

Should have kept fighting. Instead you are under a blockade with no ways to respond and hope that oil goes high enough to get Trump to negotiate.

to reorganise and rearm and pursue an out while salvaging what is left of the economy

the US could impose the blockade at any point even during fighting

Iran kept the Strait closed without fighting also

 

[Meengla]

Seems like it was agreed between the US and Pakistan, I don't think Pakistan would have allowed it without US approval, otherwise it would place them in the bad books of Trump.

The Pakistani foreign ministry along with the Pakistani airforce are the two brightest spots in an otherwise bleak landscape of corruption, misgovernance, nepotism, extreme overpopulation, lack of resource for that population, very challenging geopolitics, religious extremism, terrorism and more negatives.
But Pakistanis are absolutely brilliant in foreign policy considering Pakistan's circumstances and have been brilliant since Pakistan's very foundation--in almost every way except General Zia allowing the Afghan refugees to spread all over Pakistan during the Soviet-Afghan war. So if Pakistan is allowing the trade to/from Iran these days then that has taken the American approval. Besides that, the impact on the blockade is much lower than the media hype and the transported goods are the basic human needs like food, meds etc. Pakistan can't afford harsh American sanctions and wouldn't risk such sanctions, and Americans have never applied harsh sanctions on Pakistan. Never. Pakistan has a huge problem via India which people on PDF understand fully. An 80 year old huge threat.

 

[Immortals]

to reorganise and rearm and pursue an out while salvaging what is left of the economy

The economy was doing better under the war. And re-arming is going to be quite limited in the span of a few months. The main things that Iran needs (air defense systems) will take years to rebuild.

Meanwhile, Letting your enemy find emergency interceptors and bring in more radar systems and move around air defenses is not wise after you spent 2000+ missiles and thousands of drones. Defeats the purpose.

the US could impose the blockade at any point even during fighting

No they couldn’t, the carrier group was hiding behind the Oman mountains and at times was 500-1000KM away, not 200KM right now. The U.S. in wartime would need to keep ships at least 300KM+ away from Iranian shores which means plenty of holes for Iranian takers to skirt by.

Iran kept the Strait closed without fighting also

The effect is slow painful rise that now affects Iranian economy because Iran didn’t significantly destroy the UAE pipeline or the Saudi export terminal in Red Sea.

And the Houthi’s turned out to be useless. During Gaza war they went all out and then disappeared after their war with the U.S. something strange happening behind the scenes in their relationship with Iran.

They didn’t show up when even a decapitated HZ showed up and is fighting. Houthi’s could easily have damaged the Saudi and UAE facilities from the rear while all the patriots were focused towards the PG.

 

[Meengla]

Iran, hands down is winning the meme war.

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Surprised Trita Parsi is referencing that meme. He has been consistently against the ruling setup in Iran and he is also sitting in America as a co-founder of the Quincy institute and he should know the risks posed by the Zionists--and America is increasingly a muzzling state because the Israelis are getting cornered and desperate. So I am surprised by Trita's post. But then Tucker Carlson and M. T. Greene have become the torch bearers against Zionism in America and thus increasingly people are finding 'the spine'.

 

[Immortals]

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Surprised to see General Salami actually doing something for a change. The man was a symbol of senior citizen level of IRGC leadership dominating the decision making process.

 

[Meengla]

Is the inference that Israel's nonstop wars and subjugation of other people's is hence justified ? If so that's a very colonial mentality.

Many Americans think they are being 'patriotic' by blindly following whoever is in power to kill people in remote lands. Such mentality is ingrained in the American psyche for due to the geographical reasons. As I write these lines, I have some friends from Florida staying at my house for three days and they are wondering like 'why are we there when Iran is not a threat to us?' or 'why my gas cost me $3.80 for a gallon when we have so much gas?' (almost literally those words).

Basically, Americans are being duped into dying for a tiny, remote country due to that country's hold over the American political class. The only silver lining is that this is certainly the last alignment of forces like Netanyahu and Trump in power and there will never been such alignment again. Never. "Never again".

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[HAIDER]

One stupid mistake by Trump attacking Iran , now new massive issue of Hormuz ownership escalated ....Push all GCC in new situation. May be Iranian did know they are that much powerful and Trump gave them practically assured them ....that Iran is now regional super power. But Iranian and Lebanonis are brave and very brave and also intelligent ...