Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

Ali_Baba said:
This war is not over yet, and we know Trump will double down hoping that another roll of the dice may work in his favour ?
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If it starts again. The decisive battle is the one for the strait of Hormuz and US is obviously helpless and unable to open it.
 
FUB said:
The biggest con in American history. I went down the black rabbit hole. Everything is fake. These people are all actors. The entire stolen election was an inside job, and he was in on it. If you listen to Adolf's speeches translated to English using AI, he clearly explains the present and the future. He was spot on. Democracy is a big scam to dupe the public. People's vote means jack shit here in the US. Almost every rep in Congress, with the exception of Thomas Massie, was selected and is beholden to the puppeteers. The Dems are no different. When they are in power, they shove their green cocks down everyone's throat. They are just as bad with their trans cult and their absolute hatred for anything that is beautiful. That is why all of the blue cities are hellholes. Anthony Blinken gave Israel a blank check for the genocide. The GOP leaders are full of gay men beholden to Israel and Big money. The Dems are the same shit radical cultists. It is absolutely hopeless. So it is either J Street Jews or AIPAC Jews. They both have one goal, and it is the destruction of the US to the last brick.

They work like hand and love. Israel destroys the countries in the Middle East and Africa. They create millions of refugees. The Hebrew Immigrant Aid Society( HIAC) buys Western politicians and floods European countries. The muslims would not be in Europe if their countries were not deliberately made into failed states. It is by design. Get the Muslims and Christians to hate each other and create conflict. Divide and conquer. The Jewish power experiment has been a disaster for humanity.

They know now that the game is up. That is why they are building bunkers, data centers, and rewriting speech laws to keep everyone in a digital despotic prison. You oppose us; you do not get to eat. You do not take your vaccines, you are canceled. It is coming soon.
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You are absolutely right, I notice same thing. They are all actors and fake!

Experimenting for all of us too long.
 
Persian Gulf said:
it will take us 10-15 years to recover from this war, so I don't doubt it. a temporary and voluntary moratorium on enrichment (which we are not even doing now anyway) to help get primary sanctions relief to fund our reconstruction, is logical
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It doesn’t take 15 years to rebuild a nuclear enrichment program. You forget most of Iran’s nuclear program was built from 2000-2010? Iran could begin enrichment in 3-5 years if it wanted maybe sooner depending on how much the fuel cycle they have stored away (centrifuges, machines, etc). All the western intelligence agencies before both wars said bombing Iran’s enrichment program would only set it back 12-18 months.

And that “primary sanctions” relief is never happening. At best they will let Iran sell its oil and maybe reintegrate with swift for banking transactions. Foreign investment will still treat Iran as radioactive. And all that sanction relief can be change with a stroke of a pen.

So you are basically agreeing to same level of sanctions relief you agreed to in 2015 with Obama, except now you gave away the entire enrichment issue to get it! 2015 you gave away Arak.

Make no mistake about it, just like they didn’t let the JCPOA sunset clauses work when the time came. When the time comes for Iran to be “allowed” to enrich, the West will once again threaten to bomb Iran’s facilities if it were to restart enrichment.

I swear Iranians never learn the U.S. tricks. One of the most naive nations to ever negotiate with America. All this talk about “Iranians are master negotiators”, well we haven’t seen it the last 25 years. All we have seen is Iranian appeasement of America.
 
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Iran made the biggest bonehead decision ending the war with no formal agreement in place. Notice that Russia (Putin) didn’t agree to such a naive geopolitical blunder in Ukraine? The fighting continues until a deal is signed.

Argachi and his bandit of naive diplomatic imbeciles have weakened Iran’s negotiating position.
 
Immortals said:
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Iran made the biggest bonehead decision ending the war with no formal agreement in place. Notice that Russia (Putin) didn’t agree to such a naive geopolitical blunder in Ukraine? The fighting continues until a deal is signed.

Argachi and his bandit of naive diplomatic imbeciles have weakened Iran’s negotiating position.
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US Navy will bring its ships to Iran's shores ? great.
 
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As I said before, arrest Argachi and Qalibaf. Not even Bani Sadr did this much damage to Iran in such a short time.
 
Persian Gulf said:
US Navy will bring its ships to Iran's shores ? great.
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Iran has no guts to be the one that restarts the war.

An amazing chess move by the Americans.
  • Trump was stuck looking insane with his “a nation will be wiped out tonight”
  • His team was desperate for an off ramp in escalation and to regain control
  • Iran gave him an off ramp courtesy of Argachi and Qalibaf who naively believed that America agreed to the 10 point framework
  • America agreed to the framework with the intention of delaying to regain initiative
  • Arrived in Pakistan and gave Iran the same deal in June 2025 and Feb 2026
  • Step 1 place a blockade on Iran
  • Step 2 like 1980’s oil tanker war begin escorting ships and remove Iranian leverage
  • Step 3: Iran either has to watch it leverage go up in flames or attack America and restart the war.

Meanwhile Saudi Arabia still pumping 7MBPD and UAE still exporting 1.5MBPD from its pipeline that bypasses the strait.

The losers in this war were Kuwait, Iraq (an ally of Iran), and Qatar. Meanwhile Israel’s allies (Jordan, Saudi Arabia, and UAE) are getting by just fine.

Argachi and Qalibaf got played, plain and simple.
 
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Iran’s Foreign Ministry has been infiltrated by CIA & Mossad. Double agents everywhere. Wouldn’t trust a word out of their mouths.
 
Immortals said:
Iran has no guts to be the one that restarts the war.

An amazing chess move by the Americans.
  • Trump was stuck looking insane with his “a nation will be wiped out tonight”
  • His team was desperate for an off ramp in escalation and to regain control
  • Iran gave him an off ramp courtesy of Argachi and Qalibaf who naively believed that America agreed to the 10 point framework
  • America agreed to the framework with the intention of delaying to regain initiative
  • Arrived in Pakistan and gave Iran the same deal in June 2025 and Feb 2026
  • Step 1 place a blockade on Iran
  • Step 2 like 1980’s oil tanker war begin escorting ships and remove Iranian leverage
  • Step 3: Iran either has to watch it leverage go up in flames or attack America and restart the war.

Meanwhile Saudi Arabia still pumping 7MBPD and UAE still exporting 1.5MBPD from its pipeline that bypasses the strait.

The losers in this war were Kuwait, Iraq (an ally of Iran), and Qatar. Meanwhile Israel’s allies (Jordan, Saudi Arabia, and UAE) are getting by just fine.

Argachi and Qalibaf got played, plain and simple.
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Many things could happen, but no one knows what will happen tomorrow.

1) Iran sinks a US Navy carrier/ship, resulting in a Black Hawk moment. Regardless of what many think, this could result in mass riots on American streets if the Zionists try to launch an all out war against Iran.

2) Iran tests a nuke.

3) Iran makes a deal to live and fight another day and builds a nuke if they already do not have one (I think they already have a few ready.)

4) The Ruling Classes of the various countries, including Iran's, laugh all the way to the banks because they made billions of $$ from speculation on market behaviours, and all of us were made fools, again.
 
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delta2 said:
Many things could happen, but no one knows what will happen tomorrow.

1) Iran sinks a US Navy carrier/ship, resulting in a Black Hawk moment. Regardless of what many think, this could result in mass riots on American streets if the Zionists try to launch an all out war against Iran.
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0.0% chance of that happening. That would require having a level of guts that doesn’t exist on international stage, not even China or Russia would do such a brazen move.

delta2 said:
2) Iran tests a nuke.
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0.0% chance of happening in the next month

delta2 said:
3) Iran makes a deal to live and fight another day and builds a nuke if they already do not have one (I think they already have a few ready.)
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There is no deal for Iran other than capitulation deal on U.S. terms.
 
Immortals said:
Iran has no guts to be the one that restarts the war.

An amazing chess move by the Americans.
  • Trump was stuck looking insane with his “a nation will be wiped out tonight”
  • His team was desperate for an off ramp in escalation and to regain control
  • Iran gave him an off ramp courtesy of Argachi and Qalibaf who naively believed that America agreed to the 10 point framework
  • America agreed to the framework with the intention of delaying to regain initiative
  • Arrived in Pakistan and gave Iran the same deal in June 2025 and Feb 2026
  • Step 1 place a blockade on Iran
  • Step 2 like 1980’s oil tanker war begin escorting ships and remove Iranian leverage
  • Step 3: Iran either has to watch it leverage go up in flames or attack America and restart the war.

Meanwhile Saudi Arabia still pumping 7MBPD and UAE still exporting 1.5MBPD from its pipeline that bypasses the strait.

The losers in this war were Kuwait, Iraq (an ally of Iran), and Qatar. Meanwhile Israel’s allies (Jordan, Saudi Arabia, and UAE) are getting by just fine.

Argachi and Qalibaf got played, plain and simple.
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it's not Monday yet, lets calm down

lets see how the US Navy plans to transit the Strait in supposedly a few hours while avoiding the mines
 
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