Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

[Persian Gulf]

It’s only a matter of time till they try the escort path and call Iran’s bluff.

Same thing happened with the attacks on fuel storage outside Tehran, first they claimed it was all Israel (“wtf” message) then they attack Iran’s gas facility days later and again Trump declared it was Israel’s fault and attacks would stop. Yet by the end of the war they were attacking Iran’s steel and energy facilities and bridges with trumps full blessing and bluster!

Learn the U.S. playbook or keep getting made a fool.

Everything the U.S. does at first is testing the waters. This tweet was just that testing the waters to get it into people’s minds that it’s acceptable for US to escort these ships so that by the time they actually do, people will have thought they had already been doing it and that Iran looks like the aggressor.

Iran is in a very tough spot. Its best tool at this point is to drop thousands of mines and block the strait for good. It’s a passive defense that doesn’t require active weapons to be used on US and blocks the strait to all parties.

Iran has very little time to go ahead and begin mass mine laying operations.

Iran is already mining the Strait and Trump will not send US Navy ships into the Persian Gulf any time soon, and the Strait will stay practically closed until Iran decides to open it again

 

[Persian Gulf]

 

[Persian Gulf]

which ship wants to go first via the new invisible US escort? lol

 

[KAL-EL]

It looks like this gimmick is all designed to prop up the futures markets. Too many contradictory statements from Trump and his representatives.

Trump family and their good buddies making out like bandits I'm sure.

And to think, not too long ago, a lot of these people were freaking out over Hunter Biden selling some paintings. Small potatoes compared to the Trump families corruption

 

[hussain0216]

Some Iranians seem to think the Europeans are more rational creatures and thus trade and dialogue can happen with these nations.

In reality, they are just the younger weaker bullied brother of America.

The Europeans WERE the Americans

Same Western white extremism, same brutality and deceit

They have just grown old and weaker and don't have the same ability to dictate to the world or project power

They are still dangerous, because they still have as a collective strong militaries and the industry to back it up, but things are changing quickly

 

[RocketLaw]

 

[Persian Gulf]

IRGC Navy showing what they think about Trump's "Project Freedom"

Trump's latest scheme is dead on arrival

 

[AZ_HighCountry]

is Trump really going to send US navy ships into the Persian Gulf / Strait of Hormoz just to call Iran's bluff?

can he even do that considering Iran has laid several mines in the Strait?

seems very unlikely. keen for a US perspective on how that would work, but I think it's nonsense and unlikely to materialise. @AZ_HighCountry

The question is which ships will be given the assignment and what are the ROE? The optics at home will be bad if a US naval asset is struck and personnel killed. Politically, it will be spun as the President sacrificing US military lives for Israel and oil.

 

[AZ_HighCountry]

Who cares what these pathetic Euros have to say. They like to suck the Americans, but Trump treats them with utter contempt.

In a way, I'm not seeing the problem. The US has carried the lion's share of Europe's defense since the inception of NATO. Without the US, what does Europe have?

 

[Arash]

"Larijani appeared exhausted after the 12-day conflict, moving constantly under cover, sometimes even by motorbike"

the same guy who turned up to the Qods Day rallies in Tehran 4 days before he was killed while staying in his daughter's house in Tehran?

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Obviously junk news

 

[Arash]

Iranian media confirms the UAE attacked Iran during the war

Time to beat the a.... of our Emirati neighbors

 

[Arash]

As I said before, arrest Argachi and Qalibaf. Not even Bani Sadr did this much damage to Iran in such a short time.

We have to wait before giving such ideas a try... Trump says one thing, reality on the ground only will matter.......

 

[Falcon29]

IRGC Navy showing what they think about Trump's "Project Freedom"

Trump's latest scheme is dead on arrival

Trump (with Israel) started something they couldn't finish. US Navy can deploy to intercept drones but certainly won't be able to intercept all of those cheap mass produced drones.

Imo, Iran isn't afraid to resume hostilities and if it does resume will probably be with strikes on GCC targets then US greenlighting more Israeli strikes on Iran.

US and Israel without ground troops cannot achieve regime change in one prolonged air campaign. So they had Trump make big threats to get a pause in the war for global economy (but Iran has upper hand here because it didn't allow status quo to return ) and likely are thinking to resume it in phases.

Economic consequences have hit logistics industry + gas supply globally and now it's hitting airlines. What's Trump and Israel's plan going forward ? From what we've seen there doesn't seem to be one unless they're deliberately trying to facilitate a global famine in the long term

 

[Shags101]

The question is which ships will be given the assignment and what are the ROE? The optics at home will be bad if a US naval asset is struck and personnel killed. Politically, it will be spun as the President sacrificing US military lives for Israel and oil.

Well from what I read it’s only American military guiding them from safe distance not actually entering Persian waters to defend those ships so honestly not much different than what they have been doing if Iran strikes those ships entering waters that they have forbidden ships from entering and let’s say American military strikes Iranian military forces well war back on…..basically Trump has stuck the whole world in a biggest Carch 22 we have faced in a very longtime(I’m pretty sure I’m using Catch 22 right )

 

[Garcia Sea]

This surrender is an incredibly foolish decision, and will only put Iran in the same position as Iraq. Ultimately, the people of the Middle East are unaware of the malice of the Westerners and are repeatedly deceived. That is why most countries in the Middle East are either subservient to the United States or destroyed. In Asia, there are certainly shameless subordinate nations like Japan and South Korea, but there are also many countries that maintain their independence with pride. I don't like to say such harsh things, but the problems of education and culture in the Middle East are allowing colonial rule by Israel and the United States. No matter how many missiles a country makes, it cannot protect itself with such poor negotiation skills. What protects a country is not weapons, but the strength of will and pride to protect its independence.