Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

[ShapurII]

That's an extremely pessimistic viewpoint. Attempts to make Iran the next Lebanon or the next Syria or the next Iraq have already failed. What else were the last 18 months about ??

They have attacked us twice in the last 18 months, each time causing hundreds of billions of dollars in damage to our critical industries and infrastructure. They have already destroyed most of our IADS, air force and navy. This time they are openly threatening to hit Iran's electricity, water infrastructure, roads, bridges, etc.

For a country with Iran's nominal GDP which is barely $200 billion, it will take at least 5-10 years during peace time with peak oil prices to repair what has been done to Iran in the last year. There will be no peace time for Iran if the US and Israel attack Iran at will.

Yes the Americans are being stubborn because they put their entire middle East and global reputation on the line. But they will come to their senses by the end of May.

They aren't the ones that are going through severe currency devaluation and high inflation. Iran's situation is reaching the point of no return where inflation can no longer be controlled. If you want, I can explain why we're very close to that point.

Have you noticed the latest American provocations of shooting the rudders of empty Iranian oil tankers ? That is the Americans acknowledging their blockade is leaky and that ships are indeed getting through.

Economic indicators show the situation a lot better in my opinion. USD appreciated by 20% in just one week against Iranian Rial. The clock is ticking on Iran. Sure, it may take 2-3 months but eventually, we will have to shut down our oil wells because we cannot export more than 300K barrels of oil through land routes.

Have faith friend.

Faith and rational thinking do not contradict each other.
In fact, Shiite Islam specifically teaches its followers to use rational judgement instead of blind faith. There's a story about this in high school text books in Iran.

A person sees Imam Ali is sitting next to a wall that is about to collapse. Ali notices this and moves to a different place. The person asks Imam Ali if he thinks he can escape from God's will, telling him that if he is meant to die, he cannot prevent it from happening and he should accept his fate. Imam Ali responds:
I am feeling from fate by taking refugee in God's determinism.

Basically, Ali tells him that God has given us a brain and God has set clear rules for this world to operate. God has done both of this for us to use them and survive instead of just relying on faith blindly like a fool.

 

[newb3e]

A religion created by British intelligence to capture elites of Iran. Two more sects formed , One in Pakistan and Second in Arabian region.

which sect in Pakistan?

 

[PK781]

I don't know how to emphasize this enough, but there is no end to this conflict that is favorable to Iran. Not before deterrence is established.

Have you looked at the US terms of agreement? Those are nothing but terms of surrender. A peaceful way of defanging Iran against future attacks by offering Iran only promises, cementing Iran's status as Lebanon 2.0 or Syria 2.0.

There is a lot of work being done behind the scenes. Iran has demonstrated enough will and firepower and resolve to teach a many countries a harsh lesson in reality. Yes it got hit badly in the war but it did not surrender, and with its neighbours assisting it in many visible and hidden ways, made sure Iran did not fall. It survived against a so-called superpower and the zionists.
Please have faith and do not underestimate things or your country, geopolitics is a bitch these days and alot of the stuff is hidden and we can't understand.
Everyone involved is desperate for this to end.
With a nuclear-armed Pakistan next to it, Iran is not going to fail or falter. The region's countries are in it together

 

[SteppeWolff]

which sect in Pakistan?

Ahmadiyyas/Qadianis is who he's referring to I think

 

[Watandar]

Personally know many people recently deported, in some cases, Sunnis are not safe either if their names resembles Ali, Hussain, Abbas etc

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As expected, the most upvoted comment on that NYT article is by a gloating Indian. They infest every corner of the internet. The remaining comments point out how the UAE Is wrong in doing this.

 

[Desert]

After Egypt joined hands with the UAE and Israel, Iran now has a legitimate right to target Egypt if war breaks out again!!

See how?

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90% of the Egyptian people are with the Islamic Republic of Iran, against America and Israel and the Arab normalizers.

What you see on X is flies that do not represent the Egyptian people.

The Egyptians have a vendetta and a long vendetta with Israel and those who support Israel.

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As I said , I'm Egyptian and I hope Iran targets those rafales if war breaks lose again .. we had ENOUGH of this fuken army since 1952 and it's acting foolish.

 

[Watandar]

Don't lie, zero Pakistanis were killed in Bahrain.

2 US defence contractors were injured, though. What were they doing there, if they left the base?

Iranian strike on hotel in Bahrain injured 2 US Defense Department employees: Report

Two US Defense Department employees were wounded when an Iranian drone hit a hotel in Bahrain’s capital Manama, The Washington Post reported Monday, Anadolu reports. “Two U.S. DOW personnel w…

www.middleeastmonitor.com

We don't know the actual death toll in this war. The truth will come out later. Pakistani govt is cowardly and goes out of it's way to avoid criticizing the Gulfies. Even after the UAE targeted and expelled 15k innocent Pakistani workers, the Pakistani Govt piled on and said they were all "criminals recently released from jail".

 

[delta2]

The lack of checks and balances on such a madman and his administration is astounding. It should be easier to get rid of such a madman and his incompetent cabinet.

Yea but what if what the Ruling Class in the USA actually wants this? They are the ones making hundreds of billions of dollars within few hours of markets opening and closing by hedging bets.

 

[delta2]

I mean HAARP has been around since Alex Jones. I don't believe radars can affect weather. Localised small scale maybe but not continent changing stuff.

But Electromagnetism is still a largely unexplored field. We no nothing beyod what some old experiments showed because our whole physics is based around a few particles and their behaviours.

If you can boil a pot of water on a stove, you can then use a flame thrower to do the same from a distance. Now you boil that pot of water by using some other means, at a greater distance. Eventually you put that pot of water on a plan and try to boil it from a greater distance involving very high velocities.

You begin to make changes and try different experiments, and as they say, then the sky is the limit.

If there exists a nuclear explosion, what would be the inverse of that?

 

[Homajon]

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Propaganda or truth?

 

[Aryan_B]

After nearly ten thousand pages on this thread we still have people talking about Iran attacking countries other than America and Iran.

guys how can you not attack a country that is allowing bases and routes to attack your country

Not a single country with American bases or allowing their air space can be considered innocent.

Anything else is hypocracy of the highest order!!

 

[Aryan_B]

@Waz @Musings Is this the way a moderator should behave? Insulting other Mods in the public and behaving like they own the Iranian section ? GHQ is the proper forum to vent any frustrations if he got any issue with decision of any other moderator.

you are no better you could have addressed this privatly in GHQ thread

 

[Aryan_B]

I believe Saudi is different. Don’t get me wrong, the Egyptian government is just as, if not more evil than Saudi. But Saudis reputation in the Muslim world for supporting the Zionist agenda is much worse than Egypt’s. The Egyptians seem to get away with what they’re doing for reasons unknown to me.

Most Muslims know about the evils of Saudi Arabia. But how many know of the Egyptians role in Israel’s ethnic cleansing of the Palestinians?

sadly alll the arab countries are more or less the same they are ruled by dictators who dont give a shit about their people.

Each and every one are to some degree in cahoots with Israel and or America against their own people stealing Arab people resouces for their hedonistic lifestyles which they are encouraged by west

 

[tsunset]

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[Flotilla]

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Propaganda or truth?

Antirradar missiles are not something from other world.

They're just conventional missiles that are passively guided against radar emitters. From early AGM45 Shrike to modern AGM88 Harm they have been adding new capabilities.

Basically. They need receivers properly distributed along the fuselage to triangulate the exact position of the emitters.

The real challenge of those missiles are just to discriminate, follow and block the real radar frequency. Most of military radar emitters works in two or more frequencies. In peacetime they use radar frequencies known and trackable. But in wartime they use their military real frequencies that usually are more resistant to ECM and hiden from public observation.

If true (we don't have any evidences) here comes the IRGCN that have been capable of decipher, clasify, track and program their antirradar missiles with such frequencies. That is more than awesome.

And just in my oppinion the lost IRIS Zagros ship were specifically designed for such tasks.

Other US members can talk more and better informed than me about SIGINT and ELINT Warfare.

But Islamic Republic are well capable of designing antirradar missiles and brilliantly integrating them into their A2AD doctrine.