Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

[Homajon]

 

[ety]

Yes.

Since March, Trump has repeatedly announced this matter publicly. However, it was not until yesterday that the Chinese Ministry of Foreign Affairs formally announced it.

Based on the current situation, I do not think a satisfactory agreement can be reached. In particular, Trump often violates signed agreements. For example, in October 2025, China and the U.S. reached an agreement in South Korea, but Trump did not implement it, and China did not purchase American soybeans.

We have never seen such an unconventional foreign leader, and we need to face uncertainty and unexpected events.

I am more looking forward to Putin's visit after Trump leaves. Over 25 years, Putin has visited China 23 times, and this year will be the 24th time. There are reports that Putin plans to visit China on May 18.

We prefer visitors with stable personalities, and we prefer to reach trustworthy agreements.

Yes, Putin is coming to meet Xi right after Trump's visit. Then, Pakistani PM will also visit Beijing on May 23. They will try to sort out the oil supplies and the war. Trump is a mad man and can't be trusted on any agreements for long.

 

[Viet]

There is really one thing China cares and wants from Trump's visit, that is for him to announce US anti-separatism stance on Taiwan and US ending of selling weapons to the island. He has no good cards coming to China.

The US will never abandon Taiwan. that’s economic, political suicide. That’s worse than abandoning Europe. But as Trump is a psycho everything is possible. His politics is driven by madness and truth social posts.

 

[东风夜放花千树]

Pakistan's Dawn is also reporting this as a news where Pakistani officials are clarifying/rebutting this. Apparently, CBS new boss is another Israel-firster: Hidden in plain sight, working for a foreign country against America's own interests. The new boss didn't take long to target Pakistan.



They are not 'thinking': They are on a path to National Suicide! Aligning with Israel against the likes of Iran, Pakistan, Turkey and Saudi Arabia!

The United States has already exposed its military strength, oil prices have been continuously rising, many countries are selling off U.S. Treasury bonds and shipping gold back from the United States, and oil from the Middle East and Russia is being settled in renminbi. If the war continues, the first to collapse will be U.S. debt. Currently, the yield on the 30-year U.S. Treasury bond has already exceeded 5%.

If it weren’t for Pakistan’s efforts for peace, the United States would be in a very embarrassing situation.

The United States wouldn’t even say thank you to Pakistan.

This is an arrogant country that does not know gratitude.

 

[BHAN85]

So far, 8 US C817 airplanes have arrived in Beijing. Trump is all hyped up. China is little uneasy and embarrassed.

In first trump administration, the first trump/xi meeting was in palm beach, USA soil.

Besides this is how Trump likes to humiliate weaker unworthy vassals






You won't see these humiliation handshakes games with Xi

Thanks to Trump ego we can know the current hierarchy of USA toward other countries

 

[ety]

The US will never abandon Taiwan. that’s economic, political suicide. That’s worse than abandoning Europe.

There will be time when US has to give up Taiwan no matter if US likes it or not as US had done twice with ROC(Taiwan) in the past decades simply because of the growing strength of China. You must remember the superpower US also dumped South Vietnam when it had to. What makes you think US won't give up Taiwan again ? Taiwan is Chinese territory and has nothing to do with US. Yanks should go back to America from Asia.

 

[Meengla]

The United States has already exposed its military strength, oil prices have been continuously rising, many countries are selling off U.S. Treasury bonds and shipping gold back from the United States, and oil from the Middle East and Russia is being settled in renminbi. If the war continues, the first to collapse will be U.S. debt. Currently, the yield on the 30-year U.S. Treasury bond has already exceeded 5%.

No American here should be happy with this dire post of your's, including me, for nothing else than self survival! Just yesterday met my super MAGA brother in law who has to commute a long distance to work and he was complaining about having to fill gas at $4.09/gallon. Some other MAGA I met over the weekend were also complaining. Gas was $2.36/gallon before this war in my area.
I have feared it for a long time that eventually Israel was going to drag America down and it looks like it is succeeding. So sad but that's what happens when a country's political class gets hijacked by a foreign country's agents.

 

[Viet]

There will be time when US has to give up Taiwan no matter if US likes it or not as US had done twice with ROC(Taiwan) in the past decades simply because of the growing strength of China. You must remember the superpower US also dumped South Vietnam when it had to. What makes you think US won't give up Taiwan again ? Taiwan is Chinese territory and has nothing to do with US. Yanks should go back to America from Asia.

The US had no choice but abandoned South Vietnam. The military was decimated, social unrest, economy on the brink of collapse, gold-dollar parity abandoned.
If Ccp can manage to do the same such as a collapse of the dollar then they will give up Taiwan.

 

[Flotilla]

Yes, Putin is coming to meet Xi right after Trump's visit. Then, Pakistani PM will also visit Beijing on May 23. They will try to sort out the oil supplies and the war. Trump is a mad man and can't be trusted on any agreements for long.

Even with EU the agreement for cease tariff war have been violated by him.

 

[ety]

The US had no choice but abandoned South Vietnam. The military was decimated, social unrest, economy on the brink of collapse, gold-dollar parity abandoned.
If Ccp can manage to do the same such as a collapse of the dollar then they will give up Taiwan.

If China decides to take over Taiwan by force someday, it would be foolhardy for Americans to get into war with China over Taiwan, basically there will be nothing US can do about it. Things are changing fast, now over 60% of Taiwanese are willing to discuss reunification with China. China may not have to fire a shot. By the way, US had never won a war in countries surrounding China since WW II.

 

[Watandar]

CBS, whose owner Larry Ellison is the biggest donor to the Israeli Occupation Forces, and editor-in-chief Bari Weiss is an ardent pro-Israel voice has reported that Pakistan is playing double game by shielding Iranian military aircraft.

The report then drifts to "reveal" how Pakistan is growing closer to China. This report came in conjunction with another saying Pakistan often "does not convey Trump's displeasure to Iran" and "tends to paint positive picture of negotiations."

It is not for Pakistan to convey Trump's displeasure or present a candid view of Iranian positions. Pakistan just conveys messages. The task of interpretation and gleaning the other party's thinking belongs to the concerned parties themselves, who are not new to negotiations and have already met to get a better sense of each other's perspective.

The sleight here is familiar and much easier to grasp if viewed alongside Netanyahu's mild reference to Pakistan in his recent CBS 60 Minutes interview, where he blames social media for driving a wedge between Israel and the US. After failing to force Saudi Arabia into the war despite concerted false reporting about Saudi's role, the backup plan of blemishing the mediator has been activated. They also cannot outright bomb mediator like Pakistan as they did with Qatar.

The aim behind this sabotage is not hard to guess. The MAGA core is split on war, with the anti-war camp led by Tucker, Fuentes, and Kelly holding a decisive edge over the pro war camp. The pro war intelligentsia in DC increasingly sees where Netanyahu's war has led the US. There is no better example than Robert Kagan in The Atlantic. And perhaps biggest of all, Trump himself is unwilling to be dragged any further, best shown by his indefinite ceasefire extension and backing of Saudi and Pakistani efforts to help restore some sort of status quo ante bellum.

Not only has Netanyahu's regime change bet failed and Iran increasingly emerged as the ultimate arbiter of power in the Middle East, but his chances of going to jail have multiplied with looming defeat in approaching Israeli elections. So this current, and near future, media cacophony against Pakistan has to be viewed in its right context.

I am fine with Pakistan playing all the angles rather than repeating the old mistake of putting all eggs in American or GCC baskets. This is real statecraft. Since Pakistan is playing a good and important mediator role in this conflict, I am even less worried about the repercussions of news like this.

 

[Irfan Baloch]

no surprise but Iran stays vindicated why it defened itself by attacking UAE more
UAE and Israel might be to conducting flase flag attacks to cause KSA and Iran to fight directly.

https://www.wsj.com/articles/the-u-a-e-has-been-secretly-carrying-out-attacks-on-iran-f1745a0d

be prepared for Israeli planes flying from UAE against Pakistan in future as well.

 

[Taimoor]

UAE is ruining itself. Many imports delayed, property market went down dramatically.

What were they thinking? Do they think Iran will not be able to flatten them if it came to it?

It's the illusion of grandeur. Indians have it, isrealis have it, UAE lot have same germs.

 

[maverick]

If you are referring about the ones sheltering at Karachi previously, you can see them in this video around the 2:20 and 4:13 mark.

most of them are 747s with no livery and insignias.

 

[Starlord]

seems like P@jeets found yet another reason to bark at Pakistan, low life scums.