Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

[ety]

That would be the logical assumption... however, remember orange literally invited himself. He played the choking China card during his first administration and right of the bat in his second term. And this time he actually started choking Chinese access to energy... though China has largely been successful in electrifying it's economy by renewables, something that Pakistan did by happenstance and now both seem somewhat insulted by the shock... China of course did it deliberately while creating the largest reserves globally.

What we know are apparent public leverages... behind closed doors orange will present either his desperation or confidence in harming China as mere hyperbole or actuality. There is the TikTok example which China had publicly dug heels on and later relented and sold to a militant zionist to control its algorithm. He wants China to buy oil in dollars and directly from US... invest in US infrastructure and buy its treasuries. In return agree to make zionists its partners as an acceptable win win scenario... to undermine mideast and demand of Petro-Dollars by proxy.
As a consequence leave a softened mideast to its hyena, zion.

China is not the 9 years ago China when Trump came to power and started the trade war, at that time China was much weaker and sort of panicked. Xi or any sane Chinese is not going to sign Japanese style Plaza accord with US that amounts to surrender. China would have no interest investing in US treasures and infras because US is not a reliable partner anymore and one never knows that if Trump would break the agreements he signed few days ago. China won't buy large quantity of US oil and gas because they are too highly priced and China have more reliable supplier such as Russia. It's probably going to be normalizing of trades between the two to certain extent. China might conditionally agree to buy more soybeans and Boeing airplanes over some period of time since China needs these products, and also maybe cooperation on curtailing drugs trafficking.

 

[VCheng]

Iran bet the house on the "proxy war" strategy, its been a near total failure.

It depends on who one asks, either a great success or a great failure. The key test of that will be whether Iran continues with that policy unchanged or not.

 

[GoatsMilk]

It depends on who one asks, either a great success or a great failure. The key test of that will be whether Iran continues with that policy unchanged or not.

It was such a failure that even the pagers thousands of hezbo members were holding contained isreali bombs in them. That also means that everything they were discussing and planning is known to mossad. It also means that oct 7th couldnt have ever came as a surprise.

total failure.

Ultimately they made their bed and their sure as hell going to sleep in it

 

[GoatsMilk]

This explains why the Israelis were attacking Iran's Caspian ports.

https://archive.ph/QWuab

Long Overlooked, Caspian Sea Provides Strategic Trade Route for Iran​

The landlocked body of water has taken on new significance, with Russia shipping military and commercial goods to bolster Tehran’s ability to withstand the U.S. assault.

When it takes the isrealis less then a day or two to assert air dominance over iran, of course they will pick and choose whatever they want to destroy.

 

[VCheng]

Ultimately they made their bed and their sure as hell going to sleep in it

The war is still not over, so it would be prudent to wait for the end, before making any such declarations.

 

[Watandar]

It was such a failure that even the pagers thousands of hezbo members were holding contained isreali bombs in them. That also means that everything they were discussing and planning is known to mossad. It also means that oct 7th couldnt have ever came as a surprise.

total failure.

Ultimately they made their bed and their sure as hell going to sleep in it

That pager terrorism failed to destroy or deter Hezbollah and they have responded with their own innovation with FPV drones in the south The Zios and their partners made their bed and are sleeping in it too

 

[Watandar]

Mossad and Shin Bet chiefs visited UAE to coordinate war with them. I mean the UAE just keeps going for new lows.

But a pertinent question is how exactly are Israelis regularly sending equipment and people to the UAE ? They must be flying over Saudi, Iraqi or Jordanian airspaces with permission.

https://english.almayadeen.net/news/politics/mossad-chief-made-two-secret-visits-to-uae-during-war-on-ira

 

[Starlord]

Man, I am waiting for the midterms, Can November be any farther ? (Chandler Bing's Impression)

 

[Oldenwisdom...قول بزرگ]

Even NY Times has been saying that China has largely shielded its economy from the Tariffs and what pain could be inflicted on China would be paid back in kind. So kind of 'M.A.D' in terms of the economies.
But if would see Lindsay Graham's interrogation of Pete Hegseth video (posted yesterday), Lindsay is suggesting that just like India capitulated on buying the Iranian oil in past due to sanctions/Tariffs, China could be treated the same away. Of course Lindsay also targeted Pakistan. Pretty interesting video and just first 10-12 minutes enough to watch.

China is not the 9 years ago China when Trump came to power and started the trade war, at that time China was much weaker and sort of panicked. Xi or any sane Chinese is not going to sign Japanese style Plaza accord with US that amounts to surrender. China would have no interest investing in US treasures and infras because US is not a reliable partner anymore and one never knows that if Trump would break the agreements he signed few days ago. China won't buy large quantity of US oil and gas because they are too highly priced and China have more reliable supplier such as Russia. It's probably going to be normalizing of trades between the two to certain extent. China might conditionally agree to buy more soybeans and Boeing airplanes over some period of time since China needs these products, and also maybe cooperation on curtailing drugs trafficking.

You have to flip the script somewhat to understand the offer... zionist money, deals, opportunity to open US markets for Chinese manufacturers...
Carrots and sticks...
Of course his stick cannot exact much pain while being reciprocated on the US as well... the carrot is enticing...
Share the cake! Rule with me... be a courtier in the empire...

What if the offer is an easy meal? Share in the enterprise?

 

[BHAN85]

Even NY Times has been saying that China has largely shielded its economy from the Tariffs and what pain could be inflicted on China would be paid back in kind. So kind of 'M.A.D' in terms of the economies.
But if would see Lindsay Graham's interrogation of Pete Hegseth video (posted yesterday), Lindsay is suggesting that just like India capitulated on buying the Iranian oil in past due to sanctions/Tariffs, China could be treated the same away. Of course Lindsay also targeted Pakistan. Pretty interesting video and just first 10-12 minutes enough to watch.

MAD doctrine can't be applied in terms of the economies among China and USA, because they are different kind of societies and power structures.

USA is individualist, China power is based in Han Chinese ethnicity patriotism.

If USA elite interests are not affected, it doesnt matter what happens.

MAD doctrine in the military terms worked because USA elite lives were affected and under threat.

USA elite lives are not affected by tariffs or economic decline, just common American people.

USA is big enough to keep shrinking and keep same life standards for their ruling elite.

 

[Abdul q]

Man, I am waiting for the midterms, Can November be any farther ? (Chandler Bing's Impression)

Lol.. same shyt different faces…

 

[Magi]

This is an example of Iranian national treasures stolen by European states. This particular item is in the Louvre in France.

By weight, it is estimated that France alone has stolen 2500-5000 metric tons of historical Iranian items.

If France and others want anything through the strait they must begin returning Iranian national artifacts.

 

[Meengla]

MAD doctrine can't be applied in terms of the economies among China and USA, because they are different kind of societies and power structures.
USA is individualist, China power is based in Han Chinese ethnicity patriotism.
If USA elite interests are not affected, it doesnt matter what happens.
MAD doctrine in the military terms worked because USA elite lives were affected and under threat.
USA elite lives are not affected by tariffs or economic decline, just common American people.
USA is big enough to keep shrinking and keep same life standards for their ruling elite.

Friend, I know you mean well but you really don't seem to know much about the American society. Despite all its flaws, it is a democracy where there could be a price to pay by even the POTUS for mistakes. Anyway, it will be offtopic here.

 

[GoatsMilk]

Lol.. same shyt different faces…

american elections are good for business. It allows the scoundrels to commit endless crimes only for it all to be washed away and then repeated again with another scoundrel.

Nothing changes except that the peoples anger has been reset to zero with each new puppet.

 

[hussain0216]

Interesting, wonder if this is true and that scum bag Bibi went to the UAE,, what utter worthless scum and trash the emerati are

UAE denies Netanyahu secretly visited the country during the Iran war

JERUSALEM (AP) - Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu quietly visited the United Arab Emirates during the Israeli-U.S. war with Iran, his office said...

www.dailymail.com

Netanyahu's office says he visited UAE secretly during the Iran war
By ASSOCIATED PRESS

Published: 19:15, 13 May 2026 | Updated: 19:15, 13 May 2026

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JERUSALEM (AP) - Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu´s office said Wednesday that he secretly visited the United Arab Emirates during the Iran war.

Netanyahu met with UAE President Sheikh Mohammed bin Zayed Al Nahyan during the visit, the Israeli leader´s office said. It added that the visit "resulted in a historic breakthrough in relations between Israel and the United Arab Emirates."

The announcement comes just a day after U.S. Ambassador to Israel Mike Huckabee revealed that Israel had sent Iron Dome air-defense weapons to UAE along with personnel to operate them.

The UAE has not commented on the reported visit by the Israeli leader.