Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

[东风夜放花千树]

On the afternoon of the 18th Eastern Time, U.S. President Trump posted on social media that, at the request of the leaders of Qatar, Saudi Arabia, and the United Arab Emirates, he has ordered a delay of the military strike on Iran that was "originally scheduled for tomorrow (the 19th)."

Trump said that the U.S. and Iran are engaged in "serious negotiations," and the leaders of the three aforementioned countries believe that the U.S. and Iran will eventually reach an agreement "acceptable to the United States as well as all countries in the Middle East and even beyond." Importantly, the agreement will stipulate that "Iran shall not possess nuclear weapons."

Trump stated that out of respect for these leaders, he has instructed U.S. Secretary of Defense Hegseth, Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff Milley, and the U.S. military not to carry out the planned strike on Iran on the 19th. At the same time, he has required the U.S. military to be ready, so that if a satisfactory agreement is not reached, they can launch a "full-scale, massive" attack on Iran at any time.

Earlier that day, Trump told U.S. media in an interview that after receiving Iran's "disappointing" latest proposal, he is not considering making any concessions to Iran.

On the 18th, Iran's Tasnim News Agency cited sources reporting that Iran has sent the latest negotiating text, containing 14 points, to the U.S. via Pakistan, with the core content focused on "ending the war" and the trust-building measures the U.S. should take. Later, U.S. Axios news website quoted senior U.S. officials reporting that the White House believes Iran's latest proposal shows no substantial improvement and is insufficient as a basis for reaching an agreement, and that Trump is considering restarting military action.

 

[东风夜放花千树]

China is already superior to US in many aspects.

1) China's GDP PPP is 37% larger than US (44,3trln$ vs 32,3trln$).

2) China's manufacturing is twice larger than US by value with China having 33% of global manufacturing compared to 16% in USA.

But since Chinese manufactured goods are cheaper than US and if we calculate by volume than China's manufacturing is 3 times larger than that of the US.

3) China produces 1,1mln scientific publications compared to 400K in USA and China makes 1,7mln patent applications compared to only 600K in USA.

4) China's infrastructure is better than US infrastructure and architecture of Chinese cities is superior to US cities.

5) Since the top 20% of Chinese produce 45% of GDP and the top 40% of Chinese produce 70% of GDP, with the GDP PPP of 44,3trln, China has 280mln people with GDP PPP per capita of 71.000$ (comparable to Canada or Germany) and 560mln people with GDP PPP per capita of 56.000$ (comparable to Japan or Spain.)

Saying in other words, out of 1,4bln people China has 280mln people who enjoy standard of living like Canada or Germany or 560mln people with standard of living like Japan or Spain.

The only thing in which China is inferior to USA is military power and China will reach military parity with USA in 2035 and this will make China #1 power of the world.

We are a developing country.

According to the documents issued by the highest meeting, China is still in and will long remain in the primary stage of socialism. China's international status as the world's largest developing country has not changed.

We have no intention of competing with the United States for hegemony, and we are not interested in such competition. At the same time, we will not accept Russia's defeat. China and Russia must cooperate to resist U.S. hegemonism and NATO's expansion.

 

[Lulldapull]

An overconfident warmonger vs a determined underdog.

Same old results everytime. TACO Tuesday.

Everything is possible with Russian or Chinese help, without which Iran is a phussy cat like these other muzlim outfits no?

 

[Hassan Al-Somal]

 

[Hassan Al-Somal]

RIP

إنا لله وإنا إليه راجعون

 

[Cygnus]

They can import 1.2 billion Indians... Phull sapport saar

 

[Hassan Al-Somal]

Apparently, the cost isn't high enough for Israel, which is still looking for another round with Iran. Guess Iran needs to "Do More."

Those figures are what their strict censorship is allowing. The true human and material casualties from the Iranian missile and drone attacks on "Israel", especially those in govt properties, are secret and have not been released.

 

[Kattarpajit]

We are a developing country.

According to the documents issued by the highest meeting, China is still in and will long remain in the primary stage of socialism. China's international status as the world's largest developing country has not changed.

We have no intention of competing with the United States for hegemony, and we are not interested in such competition. At the same time, we will not accept Russia's defeat. China and Russia must cooperate to resist U.S. hegemonism and NATO's expansion.

One thing which frustrates me is that China is hell bent on proving to the US that it's not interested in competing with US hegemony, to the extent that even Xi mentioned it infront of trump, Bro America doesn't care that you're not interested in competing, they'll always try to cut your legs and bring you down no matter how much you try to appease them and they'll never stop, they'll forever see China as threat to their world order and won't let you build another one unless you bring them down. Now I believe Chinese to be much much smarter, certainly more than me so they must know what they're doing...but conditions dictate that you prepare accordingly, that US will strike when the time is ripe, so I would stop explaining and start preparing to bring the US down or go down yourself... 2 Kings can't rule a kingdom, 2 superpowers will never coexist peacefully... US is neutralizing threats one by one so it can focus fully on China, You guys are the eventual target whether you like it or not, whether the Americans will succeed or not that's another story, the crux of the matter is that China is America's arch nemesis and forever will be until it's been tamed by them...I suggest you go on YouTube and watch any video with Chinese weapons and see the comments from westoida below, how they talk about temu toys and that they'll annihilate them easily

 

[ety]

One thing which frustrates me is that China is hell bent on proving to the US that it's not interested in competing with US hegemony, to the extent that even Xi mentioned it infront of trump, Bro America doesn't care that you're not interested in competing, they'll always try to cut your legs and bring you down no matter how much you try to appease them and they'll never stop, they'll forever see China as threat to their world order and won't let you build another one unless you bring them down. Now I believe Chinese to be much much smarter, certainly more than me so they must know what they're doing...but conditions dictate that you prepare accordingly, that US will strike when the time is ripe, so I would stop explaining and start preparing to bring the US down or go down yourself... 2 Kings can't rule a kingdom, 2 superpowers will never coexist peacefully... US is neutralizing threats one by one so it can focus fully on China, You guys are the eventual target whether you like it or not, whether the Americans will succeed or not that's another story, the crux of the matter is that China is America's arch nemesis and forever will be until it's been tamed by them...I suggest you go on YouTube and watch any video with Chinese weapons and see the comments from westoida below, how they talk about temu toys and that they'll annihilate them easily

US is a warmongering nation. They will never stop waging war in the world one after another until their country is destroyed. They never and don't want to learn from their past mistakes on wars. Iran war is their worst defeat after Vietnam war, but they learns nothing. The next one on their plate is Cuba the orange man already said. Then they will take on Vietnam, North Korea, Russia and China.

 

[kobra]

China is already superior to US in many aspects.

1) China's GDP PPP is 37% larger than US (44,3trln$ vs 32,3trln$).

2) China's manufacturing is twice larger than US by value with China having 33% of global manufacturing compared to 16% in USA.

But since Chinese manufactured goods are cheaper than US and if we calculate by volume than China's manufacturing is 3 times larger than that of the US.

3) China produces 1,1mln scientific publications compared to 400K in USA and China makes 1,7mln patent applications compared to only 600K in USA.

4) China's infrastructure is better than US infrastructure and architecture of Chinese cities is superior to US cities.

5) Since the top 20% of Chinese produce 45% of GDP and the top 40% of Chinese produce 70% of GDP, with the GDP PPP of 44,3trln, China has 280mln people with GDP PPP per capita of 71.000$ (comparable to Canada or Germany) and 560mln people with GDP PPP per capita of 56.000$ (comparable to Japan or Spain.)

Saying in other words, out of 1,4bln people China has 280mln people who enjoy standard of living like Canada or Germany or 560mln people with standard of living like Japan or Spain.

The only thing in which China is inferior to USA is military power and China will reach military parity with USA in 2035 and this will make China #1 power of the world.

Hopefully China will grow balls by 2035 aswell, because that will be the only thing missing by then.

 

[Hazard]

One thing which frustrates me is that China is hell bent on proving to the US that it's not interested in competing with US hegemony, to the extent that even Xi mentioned it infront of trump, Bro America doesn't care that you're not interested in competing, they'll always try to cut your legs and bring you down no matter how much you try to appease them and they'll never stop, they'll forever see China as threat to their world order and won't let you build another one unless you bring them down. Now I believe Chinese to be much much smarter, certainly more than me so they must know what they're doing...but conditions dictate that you prepare accordingly, that US will strike when the time is ripe, so I would stop explaining and start preparing to bring the US down or go down yourself... 2 Kings can't rule a kingdom, 2 superpowers will never coexist peacefully... US is neutralizing threats one by one so it can focus fully on China, You guys are the eventual target whether you like it or not, whether the Americans will succeed or not that's another story, the crux of the matter is that China is America's arch nemesis and forever will be until it's been tamed by them...I suggest you go on YouTube and watch any video with Chinese weapons and see the comments from westoida below, how they talk about temu toys and that they'll annihilate them easily

This is why I say no one in the West takes China seriously. They're just after money, nothing else. Pakistanis get excited thinking China will come to their aid. Well they will...as much as they came to the aid of Iranians or any of their 'allies' - lip service basically.

 

[ety]

This is why I say no one in the West takes China seriously. They're just after money, nothing else. Pakistanis get excited thinking China will come to their aid. Well they will...as much as they came to the aid of Iranians or any of their 'allies' - lip service basically.

So you expect China to stick out its neck to fight the Americans and Indians in the wars happened recently. Unrealistic expectations.

 

[Hassan Al-Somal]

BREAKING: The Pentagon reveals Trump paused the strikes on Iran not for negotiations as he claimed, but because Iran is becoming rapidly more effective at tracking US air operations, improving its air defenses and becoming too strong at detecting signs of a surprise attack, per NYT.

Iran has used the ceasefire to successfully dig out all bombed ballistic missile sites, making them fully operational again. Iran also moved a large number of new mobile launchers across the entire country and adjusted tactics for any resumption of strikes, per a US military official.

Iranian commanders studied US fighter jet and bomber flight patterns with close Russian and Chinese help. The recent downing of an F-15E and groundfire striking an F-35 revealed American flight tactics had become "too predictable."

 

[东风夜放花千树]

One thing which frustrates me is that China is hell bent on proving to the US that it's not interested in competing with US hegemony, to the extent that even Xi mentioned it infront of trump, Bro America doesn't care that you're not interested in competing, they'll always try to cut your legs and bring you down no matter how much you try to appease them and they'll never stop, they'll forever see China as threat to their world order and won't let you build another one unless you bring them down. Now I believe Chinese to be much much smarter, certainly more than me so they must know what they're doing...but conditions dictate that you prepare accordingly, that US will strike when the time is ripe, so I would stop explaining and start preparing to bring the US down or go down yourself... 2 Kings can't rule a kingdom, 2 superpowers will never coexist peacefully... US is neutralizing threats one by one so it can focus fully on China, You guys are the eventual target whether you like it or not, whether the Americans will succeed or not that's another story, the crux of the matter is that China is America's arch nemesis and forever will be until it's been tamed by them...I suggest you go on YouTube and watch any video with Chinese weapons and see the comments from westoida below, how they talk about temu toys and that they'll annihilate them easily

We have not tried to appease the United States; the United States does not have that capability.

The most important outcome of China-US talks is to avoid direct confrontation, which is what the United States hopes for.

When a giant suddenly falls, it will crush many countries. For example, the disintegration of the Soviet Union.

The slow decline of the United States is the best choice, rather than beheading the United States directly. US dollar debt, US dollar investments, international trade, other countries’ US dollar reserves, US dollar-denominated assets, and the potential leakage of the US nuclear arsenal would all have a huge impact on the world. Many countries around the world are beginning to choose to reserve gold and sell off US dollar assets. We conduct settlement in local currencies, establish trading systems, and allow friendly countries like Pakistan to issue debt in China; this is to prepare for the worst-case scenario.

The Epstein coalition invades Iran; the use of the US dollar in the Middle East drops to 51%, Middle Eastern countries sell off US dollar debt, and Pakistan replaces Saudi Arabia in defense. When the US withdraws from a region, the impact of America’s fall will be smaller, and the speed of the US decline will increase. Therefore, the United States is unwilling to withdraw from the Middle East, even if it cannot achieve victory.

I cannot explain the remaining strategies to you; we can look forward to what will happen. What I can tell you is that the Epstein coalition will continue to wage war to invade Iran, and it will fail 100%.

 

[Hassan Al-Somal]

This is why I say no one in the West takes China seriously. They're just after money, nothing else. Pakistanis get excited thinking China will come to their aid. Well they will...as much as they came to the aid of Iranians or any of their 'allies' - lip service basically.

But Pakistan can access Chinese weapon systems, including their latest fighter jets.

China will most definitely veto any anti Pakistan resolution in the UNSC.

China can also invest and trade with Pakistan as well.

So, isn't all that Pakistan needs from China?