Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

[Fatman17]

 

[东风夜放花千树]

Sharing the latest news:

1. U.S. Treasury Secretary Janet Yellen has called on allies to step up efforts to combat Iran's financial network and stated that the Treasury Department will remove outdated designations from the sanctions list to make it easier for financial institutions to uncover complex terrorist financing schemes.

2. Iranian Deputy Foreign Minister: The United States is disguising a 'threat' as a 'peace opportunity.' The U.S. claims that pausing strikes is to pave the way for negotiations, but this contradicts the ongoing threats of 'large-scale attacks,' which is actually a form of coercion. Iran is prepared to respond to any military aggression. Surrender is not an option for Iran. We will either achieve victory or become martyrs.

3. According to a senior NATO official, if the Strait of Hormuz has not reopened by early July, NATO is discussing deploying forces to assist ships in passing through the potentially blocked waterway.

4. According to Fox News: U.S. envoy Landry is attending meetings in Greenland. The United States is negotiating with Greenland and Denmark.

5. Senior NATO military officer Grynkewich: It is expected that more U.S. troops will be withdrawn from Europe in the long term.

Here is a personal opinion: I believe that the U.S. soldiers withdrawn from Europe may be deployed to the battlefield in the Middle East. If NATO countries form a joint force to invade Iran, the war will completely spiral out of control, turning into a confrontation between two camps. The land routes to support Iran have already been opened, and other countries may directly provide support to Iran.

 

[tsunset]

No deal will be reached unless New York and other US cities are perforated

 

[KAL-EL]

No deal will be reached unless New York and other US cities are perforated

I wouldn't hold my breath

 

[Watandar]

No deal will be reached unless New York and other US cities are perforated

You are in need of touching grass.

 

[tsunset]

You are in need of touching grass.

So you really think New York is untouchable?

There are hundreds of thousands of American Freedom Fighters willing to do anything for a sack of cash

Shahed can be smuggled inside the US in parts

They have the right to hit Iran and kill schoolgirls deliberately, but Iran has no right to hit the US?

I'm pretty sure Iran has the capability of hitting New York, but doesn't because of the retaliation that will ensue

 

[Flotilla]

Here is a personal opinion: I believe that the U.S. soldiers withdrawn from Europe may be deployed to the battlefield in the Middle East. If NATO countries form a joint force to invade Iran, the war will completely spiral out of control, turning into a confrontation between two camps. The land routes to support Iran have already been opened, and other countries may directly provide support to Iran.

A total open war is not an option.
US will go simple and plainly alone.
No UK, no Germany, no France, no Italy, no Spain, no Netherlands no Belgium... NOBODY in EU will support him. Even Poland won´t do it.

No bases available no logistic support for the invaders.

Maybe this is one of the reasons they don´t open deffinetively the Pandora´s box, but no one in EU will help even to let C17 to refuel in their bases.

 

[KAL-EL]

So you really think New York is untouchable?

There are hundreds of thousands of American Freedom Fighters willing to do anything for a sack of cash

Shahed can be smuggled inside the US in parts

They have the right to hit Iran and kill schoolgirls deliberately, but Iran has no right to hit the US?

Oh they can certainly try.. but as I said earlier, I wouldn't hold my breath on that one.

 

[Watandar]

So you really think New York is untouchable?

There are hundreds of thousands of American Freedom Fighters willing to do anything for a sack of cash

Shahed can be smuggled inside the US in parts

They have the right to hit Iran and kill schoolgirls deliberately, but Iran has no right to hit the US?

No, there are no parts of the US that are un-touchable. Question is why would you behave the same way the US and Israel have been behaving ? Just because one country is engaging in endless wars and criminality does not mean you copy them.

Iran so far has adopted a smart strategy of retaliating in the region only and penalizing the US economically and politically. It is paying off but if there is an attack inside the US, all bets are off. The 70% of people opposing this war and believing it was completely un-necessary may flip overnight into believing it was absolutely necessary.

I think Israelis would actually quite happy at your suggestions, as 9/11 was of major benefit to them.

 

[tsunset]

No, there are no parts of the US that are un-touchable. Question is why would you behave the same way the US and Israel have been behaving ? Just because one country is engaging in endless wars and criminality does not mean you copy them.

Iran so far has adopted a smart strategy of retaliating in the region only and penalizing the US economically and politically. It is paying off but if there is an attack inside the US, all bets are off.

I think Israelis would actually quite happy at your suggestions, as 9/11 was of major benefit to them.

I didn't said Iran should level towers in New York and massacre civilians or replicate Bin Laden/Israel

There are thousands of legitimate military and political targets inside the US including inside their biggest cities

Ukraine has been hitting deep inside Russia for years, why shouldn't Iran do the same?

Iran has been hitting PGCC very hard yet the US still wants total surrender terms and this will not change by keeping hitting PGCC, when it doesn't work, something else should be tried to see if it changes or not

 

[Watandar]

I didn't said Iran should level towers in New York and massacre civilians or replicate Bin Laden/Israel

There are thousands of legitimate military and political targets inside the US including inside their biggest cities

Ukraine has been hitting deep inside Russia for years, why shouldn't Iran do the same?

Iran has been hitting PGCC very hard yet the US still wants total surrender terms and this will not change by keeping hitting PGCC, when it doesn't work, something else should be tried to see if it changes or not

They may indeed be legitimate military and political targets in the US from the eyes of everyone else, but not the Americans themselves. Like I said, any foolish attack inside the US will be of extreme help to Mr Trump, the Israelis and the American MIC.

America and its flunkies in the GCC have lost this war but their ego and wounded pride is getting in the way of accepting this fact. It is only a matter of time before political and economic pressure forces Mr Trump into accepting reality. He will either compromise with Iran or just declare victory and walk away. Iran just needs to hang on.

 

[Meengla]

Iran so far has adopted a smart strategy of retaliating in the region only and penalizing the US economically and politically. It is paying off but if there is an attack inside the US, all bets are off. The 70% of people opposing this war and believing it was completely un-necessary may flip overnight into believing it was absolutely necessary.
I think Israelis would actually quite happy at your suggestions, as 9/11 was of major benefit to them.

Right. Israelis won't even need a False Flag to drag America into this war full when every analyst is saying that Trump wants out of this war in a face saving way. Heck, AFAIK, Iran was careful to only shoot warning shots over the American ships who recently came into/close to the Strait.
Both countries are working to bridge their differences and it remains to be seen where that will lead to. My own guess is a de-escalation.

 

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[tsunset]

They may indeed be legitimate military and political targets in the US from the eyes of everyone else, but not the Americans themselves. Like I said, any foolish attack inside the US will be of extreme help to Mr Trump, the Israelis and the American MIC.

America and its flunkies in the GCC have lost this war but their ego and wounded pride is getting in the way of accepting this fact. It is only a matter of time before political and economic pressure forces Mr Trump into accepting reality. He will either compromise with Iran or just declare victory and walk away. Iran just needs to hang on.

In contrary US getting hit will completely destroy Trump from A to Z on every single point, this would be the nail in the coffin for him and his admin

Even a limited strike with FPV drones would be enough to bury him alive, destroying his whole campaign and turning the majority against him

 

[Watandar]

In contrary US getting hit will completely destroy Trump from A to Z on every single point, this would be the nail in the coffin for him and his admin

Even a limited strike with FPV drones would be enough to bury him alive, destroying his whole campaign and turning the majority against him

That is where you are completely wrong. Learn a thing or two from Pearl Harbor and 9/11 please.

Or if you are not bothered by that, just look at the "rally to the flag" effect the US/Israeli attack on Iran has had on the nation.