Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

[Aziqbal]

Let´s be honest;

42 aircrafts in 41 days.

And Russia and China providing raw materials and light SAM systems.

Do you need really ask a fortune teller to know what will happen?.

And we will know very soon. Very very soon...

and I would even say even more important is the Chinese satellite tracking

and its the live tracking that allowed them to hit the E3 AWACS on the taxi way

this war involves China

more "in orbit" hand overs would be good

 

[FUB]

Notice that Pakistani delegates don't wear neckties when they meet Iranians in Iran as sign of respect: Iranians don't wear ties as they think symbolically represent the Crucifix.

NY Times has a major article about Israel being sidelined. Very dangerous for Israel if there is an agreement representing even the JCPOA of 2015.

https://www.nytimes.com/2026/05/23/world/middleeast/israel-trump-iran.html

There are other concerns for Israel about the possible contours of a U.S.-Iran agreement, including a lifting of economic sanctions against Tehran. Doing so could amount to an economic lifeline, flooding Iran with billions of dollars that it could then use to rearm and to help its proxy forces, like Hezbollah, replenish their own arsenals with weapons to use against Israel.

While little is certain yet about the shape of an eventual deal — and any agreement could still be postponed by a renewal of fighting — what seems clear is that Israel’s partnership with the United States has come at a steep price. A country that for generations prided itself on “defending ourselves by ourselves,” and whose leaders exasperated a succession of American presidents with their hardheaded recalcitrance, is now making little secret of its need, and willingness, to submit to Mr. Trump’s demands.

As Defense Minister Israel Katz said on April 23, as President Trump threatened to resume the war and bomb Iran back to the “Stone Age”: “We are only waiting for the green light from the U.S.”

That admission was a humbling climbdown from the heady first days of the war, when the two countries achieved air supremacy and were so confident of success that they urged the Iranian people to topple the regime and secure their future.

No, neckties are not historically known to symbolize the crucifix. You can look up Cravat Day.

Cravat (early) - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

 

[925boy]

Notice that Pakistani delegates don't wear neckties when they meet Iranians in Iran as sign of respect: Iranians don't wear ties as they think symbolically represent the Crucifix.

NY Times has a major article about Israel being sidelined. Very dangerous for Israel if there is an agreement representing even the JCPOA of 2015.

https://www.nytimes.com/2026/05/23/world/middleeast/israel-trump-iran.html

There are other concerns for Israel about the possible contours of a U.S.-Iran agreement, including a lifting of economic sanctions against Tehran. Doing so could amount to an economic lifeline, flooding Iran with billions of dollars that it could then use to rearm and to help its proxy forces, like Hezbollah, replenish their own arsenals with weapons to use against Israel.

While little is certain yet about the shape of an eventual deal — and any agreement could still be postponed by a renewal of fighting — what seems clear is that Israel’s partnership with the United States has come at a steep price. A country that for generations prided itself on “defending ourselves by ourselves,” and whose leaders exasperated a succession of American presidents with their hardheaded recalcitrance, is now making little secret of its need, and willingness, to submit to Mr. Trump’s demands.

As Defense Minister Israel Katz said on April 23, as President Trump threatened to resume the war and bomb Iran back to the “Stone Age”: “We are only waiting for the green light from the U.S.”

That admission was a humbling climbdown from the heady first days of the war, when the two countries achieved air supremacy and were so confident of success that they urged the Iranian people to topple the regime and secure their future.

The end game of this detente between US+Israel against Iran is getting obvious- if US and Israel fail to damage Iran and it's regional network military enough(to force them to comply with the US -israeli agenda for the region), their only option is to negotiate a peace deal with Iran that involves considerable concessions to iran- this is the truth that nobody can alter.

US doesn't want to give Iran concessions, but it most likely can't force Iran militarily to concede either, and Iran in response won't let go off the economic g clamp aka soh it has in US and the GCC.

Trump basically put US in a HORRIBLE strategic situation ,no wonder he talks schizophrenic in media interviews these days- he's a frog in the boiling pot of water.

 

[FUB]

Not much movement.

 

[FUB]

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Genocide.live

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[RocketLaw]

 

[Meengla]

No, neckties are not historically known to symbolize the crucifix. You can look up Cravat Day.

Cravat (early) - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

It is the perception of neckties and in Pakistan, too, under General Zia's proto-Taliban rule, the neckties went out of official usage in the 80s. My teens/early 20s were unfortunately under Zia's rule.

 

[RocketLaw]

DENMARK is next?

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I double check Social Truth, it is confirmed there

 

[Meengla]

The end game of this detente between US+Israel against Iran is getting obvious- if US and Israel fail to damage Iran and it's regional network military enough(to force them to comply with the US -israeli agenda for the region), their only option is to negotiate a peace deal with Iran that involves considerable concessions to iran- this is the truth that nobody can alter.

America will be fine to walk away even if tail between its legs. Not so for Israel. Actually, horrible consequences for Israel even in medium term if Americans withdraw, leaving Israel high and dry. Israel's entire existence is dependent upon its influence in America and that is fast receding. NY Times posted a Poll recently: Over 90% Democrats are opposed to this war. 90%!!
Any ceasefire even going to status quo ante will be an Iranian victory and a huge defeat for Israel. As for America: It is a country with immense human and natural resources and with two greatest allies: The two giant oceans. America will be fine especially after some painful course correction in domestic politics.

 

[tsunset]

Trump raped and groomed so many little girls that he began to appropriate their attitudes and act like them

 

[reader2026]

Let´s be honest;

42 aircrafts in 41 days.

And Russia and China providing raw materials and light SAM systems.

Do you need really ask a fortune teller to know what will happen?.

And we will know very soon. Very very soon...

Iran landed some heavy, heavy punches. The details are slowly coming out. Badar qoum, yaar.

 

[Starlord]

even if trump wants out, he knows that real masters aka Israel will do everything to make sure their goals are met, and for that they will throw Trump under the bus, its only matter of few video clips of him screwing young girls, that's why Israel is so relaxed even in times like that, America on the hand just basically been walked like a dog by Israel, who brag about buying American senators via AIPAC, how embarrassing for a Super power.

 

[vizier]

Not much movement.

One immediate deterrence for Iran would be to deploy more mobile patrolling bm launchers and 5x more inflatable/wooden tel decoys scattered around the country. Initial Iranian counter attack would be more dense even if usa strikes first and temporarily disables Iranian mountain bases making israel-usa think again before starting the war again.

Once the gates of mountain bases are destroyed again and if most bms are inside those bases the frequency of launches reduces to 10 per day or similar which is not enough to create enough damage on isreal even if the gates are reopened continiously from inside.

 

[Yasser76]

A lot of Pak Gov air activity right now. Never seen so many Pak Gov VIP jets in the air at once

 

[hussain0216]

You can't even establish internal security; forget about taking on Iraqis and Yemenis. Your an inflated army with one of the worst trackrecords of any nation in military history, propped up by China because you serve their strategic interests against India.

And your relation with the Arabs is nothing more than one of providing cheap cannon fodder to the Saudis, who don't consider you to be equal in any one sense.

When the USSR threatened Pakistani strategic interests, Pakistan was the main reason the USSR was defeated and left Afghanistan with their tails between their legs

When the USA and NATO, India and the Afghan Republic became a strategic threat, Pakistan was the main reason these multiple enemy were defeated and left Afghanistan with their tails tucked between their legs and the Afghan Republic collapsed



India has been repeatedly humiliated and defeated,
We did it last year in 2025 and again In 2019
We don't need China to tell us to hate India,
We hate Hindus and Indians more then anything or anyone in the world

A strategic alliance with China (the future superpower of the world)

Turkey and the Turkic world

Saudi and the Arab world

Iran

The Muslim world in general

And multiple other states


Pakistan has a balanced foreign policy with multiple alliances



When other flounder and are sanctioned, Pakistan has 300 nuclear warheads if different types and the delivery systems and is the only Muslim nuclear power




We do indeed have internal security issues, but other states would have collapsed under the pressure and Pakistan has hurt afghans and our other enemies more then they could ever hurt us



Pakistan is heavily armed nuclear power
We have 250 million armed population

Their is no power in this world that can end Pakistan and our enemies are made to suffer and don't you forget it