Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

Let´s be honest;

42 aircrafts in 41 days.

And Russia and China providing raw materials and light SAM systems.

Do you need really ask a fortune teller to know what will happen?.

And we will know very soon. Very very soon...

Iran landed some heavy, heavy punches. The details are slowly coming out. Badar qoum, yaar. 👍🏼
 
even if trump wants out, he knows that real masters aka Israel will do everything to make sure their goals are met, and for that they will throw Trump under the bus, its only matter of few video clips of him screwing young girls, that's why Israel is so relaxed even in times like that, America on the hand just basically been walked like a dog by Israel, who brag about buying American senators via AIPAC, how embarrassing for a Super power.
 
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One immediate deterrence for Iran would be to deploy more mobile patrolling bm launchers and 5x more inflatable/wooden tel decoys scattered around the country. Initial Iranian counter attack would be more dense even if usa strikes first and temporarily disables Iranian mountain bases making israel-usa think again before starting the war again.

Once the gates of mountain bases are destroyed again and if most bms are inside those bases the frequency of launches reduces to 10 per day or similar which is not enough to create enough damage on isreal even if the gates are reopened continiously from inside.
 
A lot of Pak Gov air activity right now. Never seen so many Pak Gov VIP jets in the air at once



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You can't even establish internal security; forget about taking on Iraqis and Yemenis. Your an inflated army with one of the worst trackrecords of any nation in military history, propped up by China because you serve their strategic interests against India.

And your relation with the Arabs is nothing more than one of providing cheap cannon fodder to the Saudis, who don't consider you to be equal in any one sense.


When the USSR threatened Pakistani strategic interests, Pakistan was the main reason the USSR was defeated and left Afghanistan with their tails between their legs

When the USA and NATO, India and the Afghan Republic became a strategic threat, Pakistan was the main reason these multiple enemy were defeated and left Afghanistan with their tails tucked between their legs and the Afghan Republic collapsed



India has been repeatedly humiliated and defeated,
We did it last year in 2025 and again In 2019
We don't need China to tell us to hate India,
We hate Hindus and Indians more then anything or anyone in the world

A strategic alliance with China (the future superpower of the world)


Turkey and the Turkic world

Saudi and the Arab world

Iran

The Muslim world in general

And multiple other states


Pakistan has a balanced foreign policy with multiple alliances



When other flounder and are sanctioned, Pakistan has 300 nuclear warheads if different types and the delivery systems and is the only Muslim nuclear power




We do indeed have internal security issues, but other states would have collapsed under the pressure and Pakistan has hurt afghans and our other enemies more then they could ever hurt us



Pakistan is heavily armed nuclear power
We have 250 million armed population

Their is no power in this world that can end Pakistan and our enemies are made to suffer and don't you forget it
 
Not likely true as Saudi regimes have been hostile to Iran since the founding of the Saudi state. Aggressively spread anti Shia propaganda and theology through the region and funded the construction of a foreign force aimed at the destruction of Iran.

In binary terms yes Iran has attacked Saudi and will do so again as needed.

A better alternative is Shia Iraqis recovering eastern Shia oil rich lands occupied by the Saudi clan and cutting the Saudi state to size.

Every islamic/muslim country nation needs to wisen up and See the threats at us all (collectively), as we are now close to the end times. Sadly many of our brotherly countries are stuck up in the old days glory dreams (arabs have their own, iranians their own, etc) which is now totally irrelevant. We;ve been divided on stupid irrelevant small shit issues which in the grand scheme of things are just a big distraction created by the Zionists/Jews/Hindutvas to ensure we weaken ourselves and stay divided and weak......they no longer consider us as the "ummah"

Its high time all the muslim countries woke the **** up and realize and see their evil games and UNITE as one. Only then we can prepare and save our collective future. Otherwise we are staring at destruction facing us, one by one.

Time for all of us to come out of the "us vs them" foolishness.
 
Every islamic/muslim country nation needs to wisen up and See the threats at us all (collectively), as we are now close to the end times. Sadly many of our brotherly countries are stuck up in the old days glory dreams (arabs have their own, iranians their own, etc) which is now totally irrelevant. We;ve been divided on stupid irrelevant small shit issues which in the grand scheme of things are just a big distraction created by the Zionists/Jews/Hindutvas to ensure we weaken ourselves and stay divided and weak......they no longer consider us as the "ummah"

Its high time all the muslim countries woke the **** up and realize and see their evil games and UNITE as one. Only then we can prepare and save our collective future. Otherwise we are staring at destruction facing us, one by one.

Time for all of us to come out of the "us vs them" foolishness.

We have acted stupid for far too long and the answer isn't to abandon our faith culture and identity to ape others,

It's to double down and embrace our identity and culture, language and faith and plan smarter against our enemies and for our future
 
Fake Iranian Ayatollahs (yet another pakistani fake account)
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fake "Iran based News agencies" (a pakistani)

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all those "Iran army channels" are also 90% fake pakistani accounts
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just search "Iran" in twitter then look the location of those channels

90% Pakistanis pretending to be Iranians in Iran.


i gave up visiting Twitter/X because its all fake news, run by Fake accounts.

Sorry to see you get all riled up by some social media users........people do shit all the time........they must be siding with iran yet you dispise them.

Maybe spend your time on better things??
 
Let´s be honest;

42 aircrafts in 41 days.

And Russia and China providing raw materials and light SAM systems.

Do you need really ask a fortune teller to know what will happen?.

And we will know very soon. Very very soon.They lost more than 42 aircraft for sure. The destroyed CYH-47 chinook helicopter that we have photo evidence for is not on the list of 42 aircraft lost.
They lost more than 42 aircraft for sure. The destroyed CH-47 chinook helicopter that we have photo evidence for is not on the list of 42 aircraft lost.
 
America will be fine to walk away even if tail between its legs. Not so for Israel. Actually, horrible consequences for Israel even in medium term if Americans withdraw, leaving Israel high and dry. Israel's entire existence is dependent upon its influence in America and that is fast receding. NY Times posted a Poll recently: Over 90% Democrats are opposed to this war. 90%!!
Any ceasefire even going to status quo ante will be an Iranian victory and a huge defeat for Israel. As for America: It is a country with immense human and natural resources and with two greatest allies: The two giant oceans.
Ok, you've made good points here
America will be fine especially after some painful course correction in domestic politics.
Here's the part I think is overconfident and risky- US is not in the same situation or power level it had decades ago- the wrong mistake now could unravel US's dominance and global position, because the US's vulnerabilities today are way worse and problematic for it than before. the global environment US exists in today is way different ,so I do not agree that US's risks and losses are always "tiny" or "minor corrections needed". These errors US has made had probably made it lose it's empire, it's just not obvious to the world. Even the dollar is increasingly seen as a liability today ,and that was never the case before.
 
ou had Israelis (100% backed by Europe and the U.S) as your neighbors
u also dont have them as your neighbours
you picked a fight that you didnt need to
@ShapurII is right you guys should have stayed out of it and let arabs be arabs
but naah saar Marg Bara america saar Marg Bar israel saar
 
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u also dont have them as your neighbours
you picked a fight that you didnt need to
@ShapurII is right you guys should have stayed out of it and let arabs be arabs
but naah saar marbarg america saar marg barg israel saar

It is obvious that Iran over-reached when trying to be the champion for the Palestinians and part of Iran's over-reach was due to the ideological zeal of the 1979 revolution in Iran which was, behind the religious reasons, as imperialistic as it gets: Expanding its influence. Ultimately, all wars are about resources. Karl Marx was dead right about Capitalism.
Over reach it was but Iran's past posture is not lost as of now. On the contrary, it may well be on the rise due to this war. Only time will tell but when Prof. Pape keeps saying that Iran will be the 4th center of global power then he may not be far off. Only time will tell and I don't think it is going to take more than 5 years to see what time will tell!
 

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