Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

HAIDER said:
If Asim Munir is backing up this deal then its very dangerous sign for Pakistan nuclear asset.... Asim Munir need to be careful what he is doing for short term gain of fame. In long term , they will come to our nuclear asset by setting Iran example.
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why do u think he felt the need to become the CDS and abolish the office of CJCOS.
 
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Conflicting reports — NYT times says iran will give over enriched uranium. Tasnim claims they won’t.
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Iran's Speaker of Parliament, Ghalibaf, fully rejects Pakistani Army Chief claims of a "final understanding" toward an agreement and a "60-day ceasefire ex
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Indeed conflicting reports are all over the place.
 
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If Iran agrees to give up uranium, and to completely halt its nuke program, then this would be a grave mistake and is akin to surrendering. This is exactly what the West wanted, and if they get it, it'd be victory for them, not Iran.
 
shapurzolaktaf said:
No, Iran should control the Strait of Hormuz and demand war reparations from PGCC states. If PGCC rejects war raparations, then regional war should continue (soon).

If Iran doesn't set an example this time, then just like during Iran-Saddam war these PGCC slaves will again find some evil force to support against Iran. It was Saddam in the past and Trump currently and who knows who they will support against Iran in the future.
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Well, I think Iran is going to make some serious compromises to settle down the situation b/c US is losing nothing in this war except paying some extra dollars for oil & gas back at home.
The cost Iran imposed on Israel/US is negligible tbh.
 
Pathetic saar journalist in the crowd at Jaishankar's and Rubio's press conference just asked Rubio this question, while everybody else was asking them about trade and the Iran war and the passage of goods through the Strait:

"Saar, how veel you offer reassurance to India over Trump's improved relsssunsssip with Paaakistan, given the concerns about current military regime sponsorship of terror saar?"

ANY FKIN OPPORTUNITY for these pathetic subhuman creatures.

Guess what?

Rubio did not even answer the question. The question did not even register.

Embarrassing qom. Thank Allah swt, Jehovah, Buddah....even Krishna...if you are not Indian.
 
MS Sandhu said:
Well, I think Iran is going to make some serious compromises to settle down the situation b/c US is losing nothing in this war except paying some extra dollars for oil & gas back at home.
The cost Iran imposed on Israel/US is negligible tbh.
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US is losing the petrodollar
US is losing rich gulf arabs who bankroll AI companies
US is hollowing out its allies in Europe/Japan whom are affected and have to sell their US dollars and can no longer bankroll US borrowings

If US losing nothing why are the US so desperate for solution?
 
retaxis said:
US is losing the petrodollar
US is losing rich gulf arabs who bankroll AI companies
US is hollowing out its allies in Europe/Japan whom are affected and have to sell their US dollars and can no longer bankroll US borrowings

If US losing nothing why are the US so desperate for solution?
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Petrodollar is going nowhere.
And rich Gulfies are still with the US or i missed something?
Europe/Japan feeling heat is their own problem, I don't think Trump cares about that.

US, under Trump just conducted three most successful military adventures of human history - bringing Venezuela, Iran & Cuba on knees in such a short span.
We can only dream about such a power on Earth.

Look at Russian war in Ukraine for comparison - Putin literally messed up everything.
 
MS Sandhu said:
Petrodollar is going nowhere.
And rich Gulfies are still with the US or i missed something?
Europe/Japan feeling heat is their own problem, I don't think Trump cares about that.

US, under Trump just conducted three most successful military adventures of human history - bringing Venezuela, Iran & Cuba on knees in such a short span.
We can only dream about such a power on Earth.

Look at Russian war in Ukraine for comparison - Putin literally messed up everything.
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While the US has scored some tactical wins under Trump, Your comment is hyperbolic triumphalism that ignores serious costs and vulnerabilities. The petrodollar is indeed under accelerated pressure from the Iran war, Hormuz disruptions, BRICS diversification, and yuan oil deals, it’s not “going nowhere,” but eroding faster amid conflict-driven de-dollarization trends. Gulf states are investing in US AI for their own diversification and security hedging, but the war raises major risks to those very investments and infrastructure, making ties more fragile than loyal.


Dismissing Europe and Japan’s economic pain as irrelevant overlooks real sales of US Treasuries (Japan and others reducing holdings amid their crises and the Iran fallout), which adds upward pressure on US borrowing costs at a time of high deficits. The Venezuela raid, Iran strikes, and Cuba pressure operations show assertiveness, but labeling them the “three most successful military adventures in human history” is absurd fanboy exaggeration. They involved real escalation risks, economic blowback, diplomatic isolation, and incomplete results, far from clean dominance, especially compared to Russia’s costly Ukraine quagmire. Overconfidence risks repeating past strategic errors.
 
Hayabusa said:
Disagree.


1) Failed regime change: Even after the U.S. blew up Iran's high command and killed Khamenei, the government didn't cave. Instead, an even more hardline leader who lost his dad, wife and daughter, from these airstrikes, took over.

2) Nuclear program and Uranium stockpile still intact: The main reason the U.S. started this whole thing was to destroy Iran's nuclear program. Yet despite everything that was thrown at Iran, the uranium is buried too deep underground, and now Iran has a massive excuse to actually build to protect their program and stockpile.

3) Proxies Network: Sure, the U.S. had quite a lot of successful operations smashing their equipments. But groups like Hezbollah, Iraqi militias, and the Houthis are still there. Hezbollah is still hurting Israel even as we discuss here.

4) Strait of Hormuz: Iran choked it so bad that it is affecting the world's economy. If US was so confident about reopening it, they would have at least taken one of the islands. Yet they couldn't and they are literally stuck there. Oh and thjsenergy crisis is worse than the 1970s and 2022 combined. Not exactly a stalemate here when this operation is a double edge sword when your own oil and gas prices skyrocket so badly that you are now hated even more in America.


5) Ammunition Depletion: burned through so many expensive ammunitions that USA may not even be able to have enough defence weapons to protect yourself in the next war with Iran, let alone defend other areas against China or Russia. Strategic victory for Iran in the next war while it still uses cheap drones and ballistic missiles which is still intact among its underground bases.

6) Alienated Allies: Trump basically jumped into this without telling its allies, and then got mad when they didn't want to help. The economic damage and mess have left America looking bad on the global stage.


I don't see how this is even a strategic victory for US let alone marginally winning this war. This war is not over yet, but mind you Iran have practically won round 2. I would even say the scale is balance if they can achieve back 2 out of the 6 here to pre-war status.
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Strategically this has been a ABSOLUTE DISASTER for the U.S
 
I watched an interview of the IAEA chief who looks after strategic petroleum reserves for a number of countries, his message was we will hit the red line in June.

People dont realise how dire a situation many countries are in, the SOH has turned out to be a nuclear weapon itself, the higher inflation, treasury bond yields, potential shutdown in number of countries and blistering heat is making trump see some sense.

I fear its not over however but trump will have lame duck presidency in mind after November so times not on his side either.
 
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