Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

[Ali_Baba]

Hezbollah have also realized their is more then one way to skin a cat and in the drone age they don't need to put thousands of men on the front line

They can create traps, ambushes, leave booby traps, snipers

Remove thousands of operatives from the direct line of Israeli fire

Use ATGMS and rockets more sparingly and just launch FPV drone after FPV drone


I think the Israeli are truly worried, as they simply don't know how to counter this strategy and at the same time occupy hostile territory


Hezbollah for the next few years should make or obtain thousands and thousands of FPV drones and train multiple operators to fly them and in any conflict attempt to overwhelm Israeli forces and especially hit radars and A.D

FPV's are alot lot lot cheaper than alot of the missiles that they have previously invested their time and money in and they are are a lot more effective from the bang-for-buck ratio given that they can be guided with precision.

Ukraine seems to have developed the munitions that actually take out tanks from FPV's, so I imagine it is only a matter of time before we see similar solutions deployed in South Lebanon as it seems that Tanks are a problem for the initial batch of FPV drones to destroy.

In China, you can now get optical spools with 100km range which is shocking, so once battery technology catches up, the whole concept of "buffer zones" becomes a redundant concept.

( The conquest of South Lebanon has more to do with Greater Israel, than security concerns ).

 

[Mobius]

At this point, I wouldn't be surprised....LOL!

 

[Meengla]

The conquest of South Lebanon has more to do with Greater Israel, than security concerns

Right.
And it is only a matter of time--probably no more than a decade--when 'strategic depth' becomes 'strategic trap' for Israel: Israeli soldiers and settlers in southern Lebanon dying in an unrelenting war of attrition waged by Hezbollah.

 

[Meengla]

I keep referring to the winds of change blowing in America where the views on Israel have been changing especially after the October 2023 Gaza-Israel conflict. Powerful pro Israel voices like Tucker Carlson and Col. Macgregor were rooting for Israel then but have changed their views since then. Those two gentleman still don't directly blame Trump much but you can see their frustration with Trump over the Iran war.
Here Macgregor's manifesto for America going forward. I am only starting the video from the last 7+ minutes.

 

[Starlord]

So Iran threatened to pull out of the negotiations entirely and directly attack Israel unless Israel stops its war on Lebanon and that resulted in Trump calling Netanyahu and yelling at him. It tells me that Trump wants out of this war and needs Netanyahu to cooperate with him but Netanyahu's goals are different from the American goals.

There is indeed a 'day light' between Israel and America and those who think they are one and the same are not reading the evolving relationship correctly. We all know the hold of the Israelis in America and we all know Netanyahu's personal hold on Trump but there is a growing chasm between the two countries and it is worth paying attention to that. Too many here resign to the pre October 2023 era in which the Israeli hold in America is unshakable. I don't think that's true any more.

What I understand is that Trump wants out and he is trying to curtail Netanyahu's ambitions in southern Lebanon at least enough to make a deal. And from what I have seen, Hezbollah's immediate goal is to stop the attacks in Lebanon and then to work toward kicking out the Israelis. Hezbollah is pragmatic. It needs to regroup. Israelis don't want to stop attacking Hezbollah. But Trump can prevail over Netanyahu.

This is a prime time for American politics to step away from Israel and its wars, majority of people in America holds negative sentiment towards Israel and see them as trouble makers and aggressors, if and only if Democrats grow some spine and stop taking AIPAC money and actually listen to their voters, they can literally control this Israel blackmail over American politics, Republican politicians support Israel but a lot of its voters hate and not just see them in negative light but actually Hate Israel, that leave only the Neo-cons and Evangelical brain dead cucks who follow Israel like some sort of God.
Its becoming obvious that Americans don't want more fighting, and biggest hurdle now that stand between peace in Middle east is none other than Israel, they have life time opportunity to end this conflict, by stop all wars on all fronts, let Gaza be rebuild and establish a Palestinian state (on Paper), they can condition that with the remaining Arab countries joining the Abraham Accords, and guaranteed Israel's safety, Iran/Hez are now scarred for some time and with peace negotiations between Arabs & Iran we can enter a new era of a peace in middle east, yes there will be some regional issues like Civil wars, and tensions but Israel can finally have lasting peace with its neighbors rather than bullying them into submission.

 

[hyperman]

 

[ghazi52]

 

[RΛIDEN]

Hezbollah have also realized their is more then one way to skin a cat and in the drone age they don't need to put thousands of men on the front line

They can create traps, ambushes, leave booby traps, snipers

Remove thousands of operatives from the direct line of Israeli fire

Use ATGMS and rockets more sparingly and just launch FPV drone after FPV drone


I think the Israeli are truly worried, as they simply don't know how to counter this strategy and at the same time occupy hostile territory


Hezbollah for the next few years should make or obtain thousands and thousands of FPV drones and train multiple operators to fly them and in any conflict attempt to overwhelm Israeli forces and especially hit radars and A.D

Hezbollah's escalation ladder:

FPV drone swarm

 

[Hassan Al-Somal]

 

[Meengla]

This is a prime time for American politics to step away from Israel and its wars, majority of people in America holds negative sentiment towards Israel and see them as trouble makers and aggressors, if and only if Democrats grow some spine and stop taking AIPAC money and actually listen to their voters, they can literally control this Israel blackmail over American politics, Republican politicians support Israel but a lot of its voters hate and not just see them in negative light but actually Hate Israel, that leave only the Neo-cons and Evangelical brain dead cucks who follow Israel like some sort of God.

I have no doubt that this is the last roll of the dice for Netanyahu to make America implement his agenda. And Netanyahu is just the more aggressive face of the Zionist agenda spanning last 150 years to which they have worked through various European govts and even probably contributed to engineering at least the World War II.
The last bastion of the Zionism is America and they will not give up without the most bitterest of a fight.

 

[Homajon]

Iran threat to ‘enemy oil lines’ raises fear over Azerbaijan-Turkey pipeline supplying Israel

Iran signals it may strike the Baku-Tbilisi-Ceyhan pipeline supplying nearly 30 percent of Israel’s oil, sources tell MEE

www.middleeasteye.net

 

[Starlord]

I have no doubt that this is the last roll of the dice for Netanyahu to make America implement his agenda. And Netanyahu is just the more aggressive face of the Zionist agenda spanning last 150 years to which they have worked through various European govts and even probably contributed to engineering at least the World War II.
The last bastion of the Zionism is America and they will not give up without the most bitterest of a fight.

Of course, I said it some time ago that the Fate of Israel is now tied to the fate of America, so they will keep America from fall apart until Israel is big and powerful enough to take its place, America is their what we call it " Chicken that lay Gold eggs ", its not just money but military technology, research , diplomatic cover, trade and most importantly the people, a lot of Israeli's are Dual American citizens, isn't it a joke that a American born guy/girl can move to Israel who has no connection to the land, but Palestinians who were driven out from their homes can not return, this is the biggest joke that plays infront of our eyes but world can just stand and watch. Zionism is alive due to their supporters in America, people are waking up that is why we see AIPAC aggressively buying off American politicians and bragging about it on their social media.

 

[Meengla]

Of course, I said it some time ago that the Fate of Israel is now tied to the fate of America, so they will keep America from fall apart until Israel is big and powerful enough to take its place, America is their what we call it " Chicken that lay Gold eggs ", its not just money but military technology, research , diplomatic cover, trade and most importantly the people,

Chas Freeman, who I greatly respect, recently said that unless Israel changes course and learn to be part of its neighborhood, it is doomed. And doomed with or without America.
I see no way Israel will be able to dominate the region even in the short term without America. The regional countries are kept in check due to the American bombs or potential sanctions.
And I think this war on Iran will turn out to be Netanyahu's biggest mistake and will doom his long, nasty career.

 

[Starlord]

Chas Freeman, who I greatly respect, recently said that unless Israel changes course and learn to be part of its neighborhood, it is doomed. And doomed with or without America.
I see no way Israel will be able to dominate the region even in the short term without America. The regional countries are kept in check due to the American bombs or potential sanctions.
And I think this war on Iran will turn out to be Netanyahu's biggest mistake and will doom his long, nasty career.

But lets see if anything changes, so far the things are not looking good, US politics is still under total control of Israel. Israel will not control as large areas because they don't have the numbers/manpower to do, the more stretched their forces are the more they become easy targets for modern drones.

 

[Hassan Al-Somal]

Not confirmed but reports show Iran has developed a nuclear device.





Trump's unprovoked attack on Iran and America arming, defending, and giving diplomatic immunity to "Israel" have given Iran no choice but proceed with the nuclear weapons development.