Meengla
Elite Member
JCPOA and the Oman negotiations just before this war were major Iranian concessions. It will be certainly different now, in favor of Iran.
Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds
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JCPOA and the Oman negotiations just before this war were major Iranian concessions. It will be certainly different now, in favor of Iran.
Oldenwisdom...قول بزرگ
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No such thing!
He's delaying the inevitable by paying Iranian money through gulf sheikhdoms... later releasing the funds to them under rebuilding their own losses.
While priming for another bout!
Persian Gulf
INT'L MOD
Araghchi: we will respond with force
IRGC-ASF: silence
Is this Opposite Day?
IRGC-ASF: silence
Is this Opposite Day?
Meengla
Elite Member
The gloom and doom predicting the global economy has been raging for several weeks. Some used to say 'by June' and here we are in the second week of June. Now people, like Prof. Pape, saying by July. Plenty of theories/predictions around for a 'recession' to be followed by a global 'depression'.
I am not sure. The only thing I am certain at this point is that this is Netanyahu/Israel's last chance and much will depend on President Trump to put his foot down on Netanyahu's neck to try to stop destroying the global economy if there is a major war again--a major regional war. But if Trump prevails then I have feeling the world will be fine in a short timeframe.
Persian Gulf
INT'L MOD
Persian Gulf
INT'L MOD
U.S. LAUNCHING SECOND WAVE OF ATTACKS ON IRAN NOW
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IRGC so god damn slow that the U.S. left then came back to start the second wave before the IRGC fired even one missile
Meengla
Elite Member
That makes no sense. Releasing funds to Iran which would help the dire Iranian economy and its defense and then later come back to Iran again. Is that what you are saying?
But I think the Apache helicopter downed looks like either false flag or a provocation to probe the Iranian assets for more targets. That is, if an Apache even went down? There is already too much mystery around the Isfahan Rescue Raid to trust the narratives thrown around.
Hayabusa
Registered Member
The attacks are likely coming from US aircraft carriers, and honestly, hitting their land bases in Kuwait and Bahrain isn't doing much to deter them. Iran has punched above its weight, and held its own, but if Iran wants to change the game and control the escalation, they need their missiles to achieve a strike on the carriers and warships.
The problem is, even though Iran's missiles can do serious damage, they aren't advanced enough to break through the massive air defense systems protecting those US ships. If Iran doesn't adapt its tech and tactics fast, they're going to get stuck in a loop of daily airstrikes.
The problem is, even though Iran's missiles can do serious damage, they aren't advanced enough to break through the massive air defense systems protecting those US ships. If Iran doesn't adapt its tech and tactics fast, they're going to get stuck in a loop of daily airstrikes.
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hasssanali8998
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US is still attacking yet not a peep from Iran/IRGCAF
Like trump even told u he was gonna attack , c’mon guys
Like trump even told u he was gonna attack , c’mon guys
Oldenwisdom...قول بزرگ
Trusted Member
So, let's say the quiet part out loud!
It is his war... and he is and has been using his leverage as US president to get more money for his cronies and kids... his personal empire. Not to give any ideas to Iranians... he's using the realtors as negotiators... kick backs and deals... personal to him and entourage. Things would have swung very fast... he has simultaneously blackmailed gulf sheikhdoms and zionists already use money as a weapon.
This is his MO... hos shtick... the shysty New Yorker... played the stock market after bombing Iran and used his handle to swing positions.
Enough said!
Ultimately it will be a run for the straits... time is not in favor of invasion, EVER!... He doesn't have a working solution and not enough whereabouts are known... perhaps even a militia are two with operatives need more time and a working plan.
Immortals
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Falcon29
Elite Member
Does anybody believe a drone brought down a helicopter over the Strait of Hormuz ? Are there even helicopters deployed there? Probably not.
What's the primary motivation behind these strikes ?
What's the primary motivation behind these strikes ?
Bharatah
Registered Member
Attention: All the information posted here comes from US and Israeli sources, who have been caught lying several times. The US has already said that Iran no longer has aircraft, navy, or defense systems; now it claims to be attacking them, yet they were seen blowing up a water reservoir.
This is part of a media campaign, a war strategy, with control of media, social networks, paid bloggers,Twitter profiles and etc. There is already information (here in Brazil) that Trump will "declare total victory against Iran in two weeks," therefore another "victory narrative" is being constructed.
NOTE: I've said this many times and I'll repeat it: American military attacks are not aimed at destroying the enemy (exactly) but at generating a "victory narrative" (the attack is planned for the repercussions it will bring). The objective is to simulate strength to their audience and sell the idea that the adversary is weak or is weakening.
This is part of a media campaign, a war strategy, with control of media, social networks, paid bloggers,Twitter profiles and etc. There is already information (here in Brazil) that Trump will "declare total victory against Iran in two weeks," therefore another "victory narrative" is being constructed.
NOTE: I've said this many times and I'll repeat it: American military attacks are not aimed at destroying the enemy (exactly) but at generating a "victory narrative" (the attack is planned for the repercussions it will bring). The objective is to simulate strength to their audience and sell the idea that the adversary is weak or is weakening.
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Immortals
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Rumor is more than one helicopter was hit, but only one went down. And the “drone” they talk about is likely a loitering munition.
US has attacked numerous speed boats so they finally attacked back.
But this current 3 wave attack response on Iran that has been going on for about 3 hours now, is certainly not proportional to 1 or 2 helicopters being attacked. Especially considering there were 0 pilots killed.
So once again, Iran will have a judgement call on if it wants to match the escalation ladder and gain deterrence or not.
Trumps recommendation to go all out seems to me like he isn’t too afraid of escalation. And Iran keeps accommodating him whenever he wants a ceasefire. Which only stiffens his resolve:
SolarWarden
Trusted Member
Stop calling them strikes!!! They are ceasefire still on ordinance placing....
Iran will respond when US aircraft are no longer in the AO.
Iran will respond when US aircraft are no longer in the AO.
