Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

[Jango007]

I won't dispute that but total air supremacy can make things on the ground dicey, no?

As for the Strait, that is the same point I and others have been trying to hammer into the ultra-nationalist in the US thread. As long as Iran has the capacity to threaten the Strait, even if it is just an RPG, the Strait remains at risk.

But I am totally confused how in the world Iranians are able to sneak past so much oil right under the noses of USN ships ???

It’s not a huge sea area we are looking at …..

 

[Avicenna]

To the contrary, IMO the US has shown incredible restraint.

As for the establishment of no-fly zones, you have to agree that is already in place. Anything that has transited Iranian airspace is because the US has allowed it.

What planet are you on?

None of this should even be happening.

 

[ShapurII]

There is no other way out of this death by a thousand cuts strategy. Anything other than outright, total US defeat will not end the war. The very ground that enables them to carry out this war needs to be metaphorically destroyed.

Iran is going to lose this war if it stops playing the madman.
As we speak, traffic in the Strait of Hormuz is almost normal.

Iran should completely shut down the Strait of Hormuz and do the same in Bab El-Mandeb. Then the oil prices will shoot up again. Iran should have never let oil prices drop below 100$ per barrel. Even $100 per barrel is ineffective for establishing deterrence. Anything below $150 per barrel is a decisive failure of Iran at influencing the markets. That would be hundred times more effective than a few aimless missiles thrown at a bunch of already vacated military bases.

 

[AZ_HighCountry]

What planet are you on?

None of this should even be happening.

Same planet as you bro'.

There are a lot of things that shouldn't be happening. But they are.

 

[ShapurII]

Same planet as you bro'.

There are a lot of things that shouldn't be happening. But they are.

Agreed, but I don't buy your restraint theory either.
The US went all in on Iran. The only reason that it asked for a ceasefire was to rearm, regroup and control oil prices before having another go at Iran.
There was no restraint and there will be no restraint in future either. Short of using nukes on Iran, the US has used full force on Iran. It even went as far as committing war crimes against Iranians.

 

[AZ_HighCountry]

If the US were to go "all in", it can do so conventionally. With the result being what you consider "all in" now look like a bathroom remodel.

 

[ShapurII]

If the US were to go "all in", it can do so conventionally. With the result being what you consider "all in" now look like a bathroom remodel.

You did go all in. You just couldn't achieve jack shit because the Ayatollahs didn't hand over the key to you like the Venezuelans or the Iraqis did. Trump expected another Venezuela type of situation, that was his only plan for this war and he didn't have a working plan B.

 

[Immortals]

 

[Immortals]

 

[Immortals]

Iran strikes Bahrain again with another wave (2nd time tonight)

 

[HAIDER]

@Persian Gulf UAE finally surrendered

Emirates aircraft lands at Mehrabad​

1 day ago
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Flight tracking data has monitored an aircraft traveling from the UAE to Tehran within Iranian airspace.

Tehran's two major airports have suspended all flights since this morning.

The Civil Aviation Organization of Iran announced that the flight was conducted with official permission, reaching Tehran by transiting through the country's eastern airspace.

 

[PK781]

I agree, iran has recently failed to create the high costs of oil/energy markets……not sure why….it has put itself in a corner now.

It shouldve hit and destroyed isrsel back then completely but then again everyone stsrts on the “they will nuke iran” point, restraint was shown yet again!

If iran will be keep getting bombedlike this every few days, whats really the point of agreeing to cessefire and not going all in with all their weapinry on the gcc/israel…..?

Someone needs to fetch the inside scoop of whats really going on here, bcaz this is just bullshit.

 

[PK781]

Come on hit jordan hard,

 

[ShapurII]

I'll be nice.... you can't blame them for having this sorta thinking. They are not from US or worked in US defense sector so they have no idea the destruction US could bring to a nation conventionally if it didn't care what other nations thought about it. Epic Furry should be an example to many folks in here of targets US didn't touch but instead they see something else that isn't there.

Talk is cheap. Facts matter. You were absolutely humiliated by a bunch of Ayatollahs.
The reputation of the US has been forever stained like never before. It proved, beyond reasonable doubt, that the US can only win the wars where the country itself gives up and hands over the key.

You have already used your most powerful conventional weapons on Iran. You used most likely all of your GBU-57s which were specifically designed and manufactured to be used in Iran since at least a decade ago. You used clustered munitions on Iran in civilian areas. You used thermobaric weapons in civilian areas. You openly threatened to hit Iran in a way that the Iranian civilization will never be able to recover from it. You threatened to commit war crimes publicly on every social platform and mainstream media. You went as far as targeting Iranian soldiers in Sri Lanka who were unarmed and participating in a parade and then hailed it as a big victory and claimed they were "wasted". You killed +160 schoolgirls on the first day of war. You're pathetic. A pathetic bunch of losers whose pants have been pulled down and will not recover from this humiliation anytime soon.

 

[Immortals]

Bahrain targeted again