BananaRepublic
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If you think more oil moved through SoH than being counted by the people whose job it is - then you too are sailing in the SoH that exists in Trump’s anus.
Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds
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If you think more oil moved through SoH than being counted by the people whose job it is - then you too are sailing in the SoH that exists in Trump’s anus.
mangekyo
Trusted Member
Oh come on. You really believe that’s what happened?
AZ_HighCountry
INT'L MOD
Assuming I live long enough. Being in my late 60s, any inadvertent tweaking of Mrs. AZ puts my life expectancy at risk.
Still, in my youth, I always talked about going to the ME as well as seeing the ancient lands of Persia. A lot of history has come from there.
I do remember having Iranian students during my days in engineering school.
I did make it to parts of the ME. But not as a tourist.
Lulldapull
Trusted Member
This guy is on fentanyl it seems. He's just so fulla shit!
hasssanali8998
Elite Member
Yeah lmao
No one can match his oratory skills
mangekyo
Trusted Member
Yeah, and then they sold us out for the Europeans. So **** the Americans and **** the Russians too.
Falcon29
Elite Member
You do have a point
AZ_HighCountry
INT'L MOD
Your country did indeed buy then state-of-the-art hardware from us. I've seen some of it. A squadron of F-4s and 4 F-14s remain at Davis-Monthan to this day.
Persian Gulf
INT'L MOD
We don’t have missile silos? We don’t have missile farms? We don’t have missile launchers disguised as civilian trucks dispersed across a country roughly the size of Western Europe?
Nawnaw1
Registered Member
No backroom deals etc. The reason Iran got out of this war, at least in April, with confidence, was because America's plans didn't work. They wanted Iran to collapse within a short period and it didn't. Not only that, it also closed Hormuz, which is very much 'closed' with Iran allowing certain ships through. The US didn't 'sneak' any ships past, there were no dozens or hundreds of ships passing, all nonsense. Trump is using New York ghetto manipulation and negotiation tactics.
So I think the US was going for plan B, try economic starvation through blockade, test Iran's resilience and see if there is another way of achieving total collapse of the state. Can they? Through bombing 'all civilian targets'? They could perhaps. But Iran can (and the us knows this) blow everything in the persian gulf to the next world, and then the world will immediately decouple from the us in every single way. They will all join the Asian century. So I think the US won't do this. And, bombing some targets along the strait coastline of Iran will not stop Iran's power of droning, artillery-ing, and missile-ing any commercial ship trying to pass.
And ground forces on Iranian soil or even islands? Armenia conquiering Turkey has a bigger chance of happening. Stop the stories.
The facts are what they are. Never mind oil futures prices, they are manipulated. Right now, buying a barrel of oil will set you back 150 dollars, anywhere in the world. Even Exxon selling a barrel in the US. Never mind natural gas is even worse, or fertilizer and jet fuel.
The war of february/march/april is now fully and universally understood to have been a failure, failing to achieve any stated objective. This is not only the consensus in all the media and alternative media, it's also what you can read between the lines, with European cucks even cursing Donals for going in (like Merz).
The question is will the US go for another 'decisive blow', or will they have to accept that their position in the persian gulf is now weaker. Combined with the global decline of the us and the west, their position will further weaken in the persian gulf.
Alistair Crooke says Israel needs to go back to Ben Gurion days: stay within it's means. Be strong, but small and don't antagonize the entire region and try to subdue public opinion in middle eastern countries through dictatorships. Those aren't future proof as we know.
So I think the US was going for plan B, try economic starvation through blockade, test Iran's resilience and see if there is another way of achieving total collapse of the state. Can they? Through bombing 'all civilian targets'? They could perhaps. But Iran can (and the us knows this) blow everything in the persian gulf to the next world, and then the world will immediately decouple from the us in every single way. They will all join the Asian century. So I think the US won't do this. And, bombing some targets along the strait coastline of Iran will not stop Iran's power of droning, artillery-ing, and missile-ing any commercial ship trying to pass.
And ground forces on Iranian soil or even islands? Armenia conquiering Turkey has a bigger chance of happening. Stop the stories.
The facts are what they are. Never mind oil futures prices, they are manipulated. Right now, buying a barrel of oil will set you back 150 dollars, anywhere in the world. Even Exxon selling a barrel in the US. Never mind natural gas is even worse, or fertilizer and jet fuel.
The war of february/march/april is now fully and universally understood to have been a failure, failing to achieve any stated objective. This is not only the consensus in all the media and alternative media, it's also what you can read between the lines, with European cucks even cursing Donals for going in (like Merz).
The question is will the US go for another 'decisive blow', or will they have to accept that their position in the persian gulf is now weaker. Combined with the global decline of the us and the west, their position will further weaken in the persian gulf.
Alistair Crooke says Israel needs to go back to Ben Gurion days: stay within it's means. Be strong, but small and don't antagonize the entire region and try to subdue public opinion in middle eastern countries through dictatorships. Those aren't future proof as we know.
BigMela2onin
Trusted Member
I know you inexplicably love Americans but they've never helped anyone, Iranian or otherwise, out of the kindness of their hearts. They have a long history of aiding and enabling Anglo looting of Iran during the late 19th and early 20th century and obviously they carried out Operation Ajax. They built up the Iranian army so it could be used as fodder against the Soviets, not because they loved Iran or Iranians. Now you want Americans to come be our friends while they're saying "we're gonna take all the oil!"
ShapurII
Trusted Member
It's trivial that every country is after its own interests, but for what is worth, our short period of cooperation with the Americans during 60s and 70s helped us build a modern, well-trained army that saved our territorial integrity and sovereignty in one of the world's largest wars fought after World War II.
That aside, they also heavily improved our civilian infrastructure, education, quality of life, etc. When we had good relations with the Americans, Iranians lived in relative prosperity compared to what is happening now.
Our friendship with the Russians never achieved anything remotely similar to that. The Chinese were initially helpful, but it all changed after their focus shifted towards Arab states in the Persian Gulf. We haven't had normal relations with China ever since, even though our interests align and we aren't enemies at the moment.
Lulldapull
Trusted Member
And I posted that clip of the news conference where imam putin admitted that he hasn't given diddly to Iran, not that Iran asked for anything from Russia, but he admitted that he hasn't sold anything to Iran.
Neither Russia nor China have anything meaningful to sell to Iran either.
We see how Russia fights in Ukraine, which is deplorable to say the least. And that China is even weaker than Russia and has jack shit experience/ weaponry fighting modern wars.
Not a good situ for Iran.......
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