Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

[BananaRepublic]

This thread needs to avoid jingoism and subjectivity that have crept into the discourse of late. Even the most diehard Iranian ultra will need to acknowledge that something has quite suddenly gone wrong. Iran brought NOTHING NEW to bear in this period, either militarily, or diplomatically, or strategically.

These last two weeks have seen Iran rather pathetically surrender the carefully constructed leverage it had amassed in the preceding two months.

Even if the latest salvo of Iranian missiles and drones impacted some US bases in response to the US strikes, which may well be the case, it matters little if the perception persists that Iran could not respond with sufficient vigour to exert harm upon American objectives or to even stall American progress.

Still, this drama is far from over. Iran surprised us all two months ago. I still feel they will try a more novel approach soon enough.

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When will you guys get it that IRGC is not fighting a military war!

It doesn’t have the weapons to compete with a country with 1.5 trillion annual military budget.

Iran probably hasn’t spent 1.5 trillion cumulatively this century.

Iran is fighting an asymmetric war.

Iran will continue bleeding lives and treasure.

And USA will continue its economic suicide until it elects a new president.

Hunker down.

2.5 more years still to go.

There’s not going to be a peace deal between Trump and Iran.

You’ll have the periodic ceasefire to give respite to the global economy.

And it’s also a money making scheme for the ones with insider information.

 

[Persian Gulf]

Bro!

My heart has been captured by Persians. But my tongue is still English.

Pls kindly translate for us non Persians.

they destroyed most of the bridges and power plants in Serbia

if Iran didn't have missiles to threaten the regional power plants, we would end up like Serbia

 

[BananaRepublic]

Essence of Shia faith.

Not sure why people don’t get it!

 

[925boy]

War is big business:
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"War is big business'- or private companies! but for the US govt that funds those private defense companies during wars, it's a whole ton of debt,plus disaster for national security and foreign policy goals.

 

[BananaRepublic]

they destroyed most of the bridges and power plants in Serbia

if Iran didn't have missiles to threaten the regional power plants, we would end up like Serbia

Not just Missiles. But the ability to choke off the global economy via SoH.

Also, entire planet was against the genocidal Serbs.

 

[925boy]

Exactly.

The markets no longer believe Iran can hinder the USA enough to disrupt global trade. When that perception is lost, the jig is up.

Iran's ONLY real world leverage has evaporated due to a poor response to the recent American actions. This is a criminal act of dropping the ball from the Iranian leadership.

Where was the overwhelming missile barrage against ANY single target?? Where was the saturation drone swarm against even a single USN ship??

Hmm...or is Brent and WTI prices staying at $90 because US is bleeding it's SPR out daily to keep oil prices down?

 

[FUB]

 

[FUB]

percent Interception rate

 

[pakistanitarzan]

Bro!

My heart has been captured by Persians. But my tongue is still English.

Pls kindly translate for us non Persians.

Persian and Dari are two beautiful languages with alot of words that are similar to Urdu. We should learn.

 

[BananaRepublic]

Hmm...or is Brent and WTI prices staying at $90 because US is bleeding it's SPR out daily to keep oil prices down?

Every single country is exhausting it’s rederves.

Because they have no choice.

That’s the only thing keeping oil below 120 dollars.

Every single country is also borrowing like crazy to provide fuel subsidies to its masses.

Only naive fools think this is tenable.

It took Vietnam a decade to defeat USA.

Taliban took 20 years.

It’s going to take Iran about 2.5 years to humiliate USA.

 

[maverick]

seems like multiple aircrafts either destroyed or damaged

44K views · 2.9K reactions | 21 targets. Zero warning. Bahrain. Kuwait. Jordan. They hit 20 — we gave 21. F-35 hangar? Gone. 4 bases? Flat. Strait of Hormuz? Locked. Oil at 132? Shocked. Day 103. Written. #21targets #MilitaryKrafte #iran #lego

21 targets. Zero warning. Bahrain. Kuwait. Jordan. They hit 20 — we gave 21. F-35 hangar? Gone. 4 bases? Flat. Strait of Hormuz? Locked. Oil at 132? Shocked. Day 103. Written. #21targets...

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another video

 

[925boy]

His messaging technique resonates better than “death to Israel..”.

But if he wasn't white would his "messaging technique /" still work? I doubt it. Same with that Prof. Sachs(U Chicago Prof )

 

[maverick]

Essence of Shia faith.

Not sure why people don’t get it!

there is no such thing as shia sunni, only islam… this is essence of islam, only a hand full follow it

 

[SecularNationalist]

Calm down. It's just another dog and pony show by that isreali puppet in the white house. The possibility of a full scale invasion and destruction of Iran is now very slim. Yes slim bcz they have realized that they cannot defeat Iran militarily.

And as I said after few hours the orange bufoon has cancelled the strikes on Iran lol after promising to hit Iran hard tonight.
This man has literally turned geo politics into a kindergarten.
Though on the other hand it's obvious US understand the language of tit for tat not respect. US only stops when they know they will be injured as well.Because their military planners know better than their lunatic president. There are reports that they ha to kick trump out of war room because he was annoying everyone there.

 

[AZ_HighCountry]

Hmm...or is Brent and WTI prices staying at $90 because US is bleeding it's SPR out daily to keep oil prices down?

It's a combination of the two. US oil executives have been raising the alarm for the past few weeks. Some of us get it. There are a couple who don't.

FWIW, after 16 weeks of decline, US gasoline inventories were actually up by a few million barrels from the previous week. I suspect the refiners have made changes to produce more gasoline instead of other products, or, the US is not exporting as much due to political pressure here on the home front. The summer driving season is about to get underway in earnest.

In the other thread, Raptor is crowing that the price of gasoline in his area is down. In mine it is barely moving. Average is holding at $4.49. I'll have to pull the latest US EIA data to see what the trend is both regionally and nationally.