Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

[AZ_HighCountry]

Seeing in a few sources Trump has called off the bombing of Iran tonight. Says a deal is at hand.

 

[SilentWatch]

Let's admit something also that was staring us in the face all this while- we never knew how vulnerable fighter jets are to ballistic missile attacks when they are on the ground, which is where they spend alot of time during war. Wow.

Well commercial aviation -> optimized for airtime not ground time. Military aviation -> optimized to perform at or above req thresholds when it matters. Military uptime is like what ~40-50% of total strength at one time, the rest are on the ground... not underwater IMO.

Hitting bases in Jordan was a good move.

A few hits on radar sites in Iraq and Jordan would deny early warning to the Israel Iron Dome. That should increase the probability of hits if Iranian missiles were to strike Israel.

Hitting and clearing a radar bind highway into isreal for missiles is a great chess move, it enables next round of war -> if Trump so chooses, it increases stakes for the right pressure point of US allies.

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Iran wins as long as it survives -> they are dominating defence of their turf, 360 in the modern era where kinetic and non-kinetic, contact and non-contact war and Narrative craft is used as its also the 250 year cycle of superpower stability coming to an end and a new cycle begins...

First there were the Dutch, then British and then the Americans... there was a time it was said, the Sun never sat on the British Empire... well with US and its ~800 bases not the same analogy?

Iran is a catalyst state... in the framework - we as a nation need prep for a period of potential prolonged war... thankfully we have combat knowledge and experience barring governance issues.

 

[Meengla]

Its correct to say Pakistan, FM Asim Munir opposed this war, he travelled to the Usa and showed his opposition, Pakistan supported Iran at all international platforms, worked with China, also stopped Iran Arab war. Credit should be given where due.

You are right about Pakistan, especially Asim Munir's role.
But Trump keeps praising Asim Munir is Trump portraying himself as a well connected person about geopolitics and knows important people 'out there'. In his puny brain, Asim Munir and PM Shehbaz Sharif are easy to remember and repeat. That's basically it.

 

[RescueRanger]

"War is big business'- or private companies! but for the US govt that funds those private defense companies during wars, it's a whole ton of debt,plus disaster for national security and foreign policy goals.

They all converge at the same apex.

 

[Meengla]

Ok bomb again? What’s that gonna achieve? Iran isn’t Gaza the size of a postage stamp.
In 60 days Put on the blockade again. It will take time to bite again. Meanwhile August turns into September which turns in October. There is no military solution to this problem despite what your Brain likes to tell you.

Good post.
60 days later, Iran will have more money, will have more weapons, will have nabbed more spies inside Iran. That is if a truce lasts for 60 days. If there is even the 60 day pause, as being reported today, then the Israelis are already upset over that. Watch Max Blumenthal today on Judge Napolitano about Israel's reaction.

 

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[Jango007]

This is why when I tell my MAGA staff and associates that I would only support Trump if I was missing most of my brain ….

39th time ….

 

[SilentWatch]

You are right about Pakistan, especially Asim Munir's role.
But Trump keeps praising Asim Munir is Trump portraying himself as a well connected person about geopolitics and knows important people 'out there'. In his puny brain, Asim Munir and PM Shehbaz Sharif are easy to remember and repeat. That's basically it.

Lets assume for Fun... Bibi had leverage through epstein to make Trump say yes to Iran attack thanks to the 'yes man' effect trump is surrounded with... i.e. AIPAC affiliates aka the SWAP...

now imagine this "convincing the US" is going on for months and Top Boss over lunch, in the presence of other sensitive people said No - dont do it...

and then SHIT HITS THE FAN...

You call the guy that predicted the shit and trust him... Human Psychology.
Plus Top boss give Trump non-isreali grounds to stand on inside the administration.. Political Ground

Trump + Shahbaz in Egypt was pure gold... I think both of them enjoy swimming in pools... so he likes him...thankfully pakistan HAS a PM is now better known internationally to be able to competently do something.

overall Shahbaz + top boss combo on:
May 2025 war A
Iran crisis A+
Economic planning, tax and $s F
Economic value delivery C-

 

[Meengla]

now imagine this "convincing the US" is going on for months and Top Boss over lunch, in the presence of other sensitive people said No - dont do it...

Around the June 2025 war on Iran, FM Munir had the 'private lunch'. Only the ISI Chief from Pakistan was present during that lunch. Trump had Rubio and maybe one or two more besides him from the American side. I'd love to know what they discussed there but I believe there was broad agreement of Pakistan's role in the Middle East. And after the Private Lunch, Trump said something like 'He is not happy with the situation' (implying, Asim Munir didn't like the war on Iran) and 'they [Pakistanis] know the Iranians better than most'.
We are seeing a continuation of Trump-Munir bonhomie to this day. And as far as Pakistan is concerned, the IMF keeps bailing out the sorry Pakistani economy and 70 of Pakistan's F-16s have / are being updated till 2040 to the level of reaching Rafale like quality. Not too bad for a little flattery done by the Pakistanis. Ask the Indians!

 

[Starlord]

A false HAZMAT alarm trigged an evacuation of the Pentagon:
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I mean Taco bell farts can be hazardous.

 

[Magi]

Tomorrow he can say the Iranians backed out and use that as cause to start the next round.

 

[Hassan Al-Somal]

️ The State Department has launched an investigation of Trita Parsi, co-founder of the Quincy Institute for Responsible Statecraft and the National Iranian-American Council (NIAC), and could seek to deport him, according to U.S. officials and documents reviewed by The Free Press.

Parsi, who holds a green card, is one of the most prominent U.S.-based critics of the war with Iran. He was born in Iran, grew up in Sweden, has lived in the United States for over 25 years.

A Trump administration official said Secretary of State Marco Rubio was taking “a hard look” at anyone whose work “furthers” the agenda of U.S. adversaries, invoking a provision of federal immigration law allowing the secretary of state to personally determine that a noncitizen’s presence compromises a “compelling U.S. foreign policy interest”—the same authority Rubio used in the ongoing effort to deport Columbia University protest leader Mahmoud Khalil.

Quincy’s CEO told staff and donors in April that the think tank was retaining an immigration lawyer and preparing a writ of habeas corpus “to have at the ready” if Parsi were suddenly detained.

The outlet that broke this story, The Free Press, has repeatedly published articles that amplify official pressure on critics of Israel, U.S. wars, and aggressive foreign policy, contributing to a chilling effect intended to deter others from speaking out.

 

[Kyussis]

️ The State Department has launched an investigation of Trita Parsi, co-founder of the Quincy Institute for Responsible Statecraft and the National Iranian-American Council (NIAC), and could seek to deport him, according to U.S. officials and documents reviewed by The Free Press.

Parsi, who holds a green card, is one of the most prominent U.S.-based critics of the war with Iran. He was born in Iran, grew up in Sweden, has lived in the United States for over 25 years.

A Trump administration official said Secretary of State Marco Rubio was taking “a hard look” at anyone whose work “furthers” the agenda of U.S. adversaries, invoking a provision of federal immigration law allowing the secretary of state to personally determine that a noncitizen’s presence compromises a “compelling U.S. foreign policy interest”—the same authority Rubio used in the ongoing effort to deport Columbia University protest leader Mahmoud Khalil.

Quincy’s CEO told staff and donors in April that the think tank was retaining an immigration lawyer and preparing a writ of habeas corpus “to have at the ready” if Parsi were suddenly detained.

The outlet that broke this story, The Free Press, has repeatedly published articles that amplify official pressure on critics of Israel, U.S. wars, and aggressive foreign policy, contributing to a chilling effect intended to deter others from speaking out.

Land of the Free!!!

 

[TallarnDesertRaider]

More a topic for the US political thread but yeah, all is proceeding as planned for the MIGAtards

 

[Meengla]

The State Department has launched an investigation of Trita Parsi, co-founder of the Quincy Institute for Responsible Statecraft and the National Iranian-American Council (NIAC), and could seek to deport him, according to U.S. officials and documents reviewed by The Free Press.
Parsi, who holds a green card, is one of the most prominent U.S.-based critics of the war with Iran. He was born in Iran, grew up in Sweden, has lived in the United States for over 25 years.

OMG! Trita Parsi is a balanced analyst and doesn't shy away from criticizing the Iranian state in harsh words when appropriate.
But what this tells you is that not only the Green Card holders but also the Naturalized Citizens are safe in this country from arbitrary deportations. The most powerful forces with a chokehold on the Trump Presidency are not going to abandon a 150-year project got to waste as long Trump is the President. These kinds of immigration measures would absolutely not have happened if Kamala Harris was the President.