Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

[Flotilla]

Really? How on earth can the US reach an agreement that is NOT favourable to Iran? Some members are too gloomy about things. Reality is reality.

Yeah, but that seems to be the maximum list of iranian demands...
...I would like to see the final agreement like this. But seems that Persian Gulf is right, just the letter from Irán. I cross fingers most of them are finally approved by both sides. Deffinitively the final agreement will be much better for Irán. But a long of road in front...

 

[Falcon29]

 

[RocketLaw]

I already said yesterday, it would be no DEAL today if something is unhappy, upset, or emotional rollercoasters, blah

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Jun 12, 2026

Tomorrow morning, you will hear - NO DEAL! Sorry but no deal this time.

Then they will start to attack again back and forth.

US will be veeeery angry, Iran get very veeeeeery angry.

Same trap

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[Wingzero30]

Once his presidency ends he will be gone in the dustbin of history. A nobody and a total shameless filth.

 

[Nawnaw1]

Well as there seem to be people who still don't know which side is more truthful about what is happening behind the scenes, why not just release what was agreed to according to you trump? tweet it out

 

[VCheng]

Yeah, but that seems to be the maximum list of iranian demands...
...I would like to see the final agreement like this. But seems that Persian Gulf is right, just the letter from Irán. I cross fingers most of them are finally approved by both sides. Deffinitively the final agreement will be much better for Irán. But a long of road in front...

We should wait for the final, signed agreement, whenever it might happen. to be able to judge the value and impact of the settlement terms.

 

[Mobius]

 

[Oldenwisdom...قول بزرگ]

Come to think of it... Iran has been pretty consistent and public with it's demands...
The shyster has been jumping from one branch of the tree to the next... swinging in the middle and alluding to some clandestine and arcane "deal" that has been waiting Iranian endorsement.

What's private there don?

 

[VCheng]

Come to think of it... Iran has been pretty consistent and public with it's demands...

... but any side can ask for whatever it wants. The key is what either side can actually get.

We still do not know what the final agreement is, or if it ever happens, and even if it does, how long it lasts.

 

[Meengla]

Yeah, but that seems to be the maximum list of iranian demands...
...I would like to see the final agreement like this. But seems that Persian Gulf is right, just the letter from Irán. I cross fingers most of them are finally approved by both sides. Deffinitively the final agreement will be much better for Irán. But a long of road in front...

Did we all not see that even Mark Levin, in a video I posted just above, is admitting that Trump desperately wants out and per Mark the whole world knows that. And coming from Mark, that wailing must mean a lot and should tell people who has gained the upper hand. In my mind, as soon as the ceasefire was announced in early April, I knew who had gained the upper hand and subsequent months/events have not changed my perception of that.

 

[Persian Gulf]

Iranian officials and media had insisted that Iran had stopped engaging with the U.S. after the U.S. attacked Iran several times. While Trump insisted Iran was lying and negotiations were ongoing.

Now Araghchi confirms Trump was telling the truth, and negotiations have been ongoing behind the scenes this entire time:

 

[FUB]

Complete defeat of Americans and the donkeys across the Persian Gulf .

 

[Watandar]

Withdrawing from Lebanon or not is not capitulation. If a deal like this gets done and holds, within a few years not even the Arabs themselves will allow Israel to set foot in any Arab land, wherever. Things don't happen in a vacuum. If America and it's posture get significantly reduced in the middle east, you think irsrael kan just do what it likes there? It's entire existense will be in question, and not because of military conflict. But the wrath of hundreds of millions of people in the region. Forced recognition and reconciliation with dictatorship governments (arab dictatorships) is not sustainable mid- to long term.

A very optimistic viewpoint, I hope you are proven correct. To me the last few years have proven that people in the region, like elsewhere, are fully onboard with the consumerist lifestyle and only want jobs and better facilities. They are willing to ignore whatever war or atrocity or repression is imposed by Israel, America or the dictatorships and will just performatively object. The only difference with the recent Iran war was that by attacking energy facilities and blocking the Strait of Hormuz, Iran brought the pain home to GCC/West and Israel and you saw them sing a very different tune from Gaza or Lebanon or Iraq or Syria or Yemen or Sudan or Afghanistan or Pakistan or Iran-Iraq 1980s etc.

However after this war is over all will return to the consumerist hedonistic lifestyle that now dominates the globe.

 

[FUB]

 

[ShotErrorKh]

Lebanon got the short end of the stick on this one... I doubt once the deal is signed Iran will do anything other than sabre rattling and "expressing concern" over the ethnic cleansing and occupation of South Lebanon. This is the worst case scenario.