Iran - Israel/US War: Israel-US declare war on Iran, Iran responds

Is it me or is he just trying to sell it to trumps voters because this deal seems to mean Iran is actually getting a lot more and trump red lines are starting fade away

Israelis are in coping mode and cherry picking what Vance is saying. I don't see any impact on/from Trump voters on the negotiations. The AIPAC and Israel Firsters are to be watched though.
 
You Iranian guys need to stop posting stuff without translating.

You aren’t talking to yourself.

Entire Muslim world is engrossed.
Translation
"A strike on Bahrain's early warning radar during yesterday's IRGC attack has been confirmed with new satellite imagery. Radar and air defense stations with low mobility, whether in the south of the Persian Gulf or the north of the Persian Gulf, will not have the necessary security. They only function during peacetime, and in wartime, their fate remains uncertain."
 
Bro!

Pakistani “mediators” are useful idiots in Trump’s market manipulation hustle.

There’s going to be no peace deal.

Just ceasefires to be used to manipulate the market.

With all due respect to the Pakistani general - Trump doesn’t need him for a peace deal.

However, Trump does need a plausible patsy.
Pakistani “mediators” are acting at China's direction. Pakistan is representing China's demands.
 
Unfortunately the only way to end this is to make American people experience what is being at war, with their homes bombed, monuments burning and loved ones dying of collateral damage
I'm sure the American Freedom Fighters you fantasize about will get right on that.
 
Unfortunately the only way to end this is to make American people experience what is being at war, with their homes bombed, monuments burning and loved ones dying of collateral damage
Foolish. A much better strategy is to cause economic and political pain and that's what Iran did, effectively.
 
I use it on my laptop without having installed anything, and without having logged into it and it works for me every time :unsure:
It's been hit or miss for me. I've a lot of extensions added to the browser. Something always seems to break when there is an extension update.
 
Even if useful idiots as you claimed, if pakistan played even 1% role to reach a settlement which will hopefully result in few lives being saved is an endeavour worth taking, the whole world did nothing and sat by to watch while the world economy getting driven off a cliff and innocent people dying but Pakistan at least tried to mitigate the catastrophe however small the contribution you might think it is.

You misunderstand me, bro!

I applaud Pakistan for not exploiting the situation.

Pakistan has demonstrated it is not one of those evil Muslim nations.

Iran is lucky to have a border with a Muslim country that cares about Muslims.

My point was in reference to the charade - which Pakistan has no choice but to entertain. Because of it’s precarious position.
 
Bro!

Pakistani “mediators” are useful idiots in Trump’s market manipulation hustle.

There’s going to be no peace deal.

Just ceasefires to be used to manipulate the market.

With all due respect to the Pakistani general - Trump doesn’t need him for a peace deal.

However, Trump does need a plausible patsy.


I don’t understand why the markets even react anymore-this is making the Boy Who Cried Wolf look restrained…
 
Which as you know, we are already experiencing.

The question is, will it get worse before it gets better?

Trump is desperate to avoid another economic meltdown under him.

That’s Iran’s nuclear deterrent.

Which the IRGC is exploiting expertly.
 
As to the Twitter posts, most of the time on my laptop, the translations work when clicking on the posts and going to Twitter. But why not give a little hint/summary of the posts so that we can determine whether to further check on Twitter or not? And that applies to all non-English languages posts here.
My two cents!
 
Reuters is also reporting a potential agreement.


US and Iran signal peace deal near despite differences over terms​


  • Pakistan PM says text of a deal has been finalised
  • Trump calls reports of terms that favour Iran 'fake news'
  • Deal as outlined by Western, Iranian, Pakistani sources appears to match terms originally proposed by Tehran
  • Western source says deal could be signed as soon as Sunday
DUBAI/WASHINGTON/PARIS, June 12 (Reuters) - The United States and Iran on Friday appeared to have sharply different understandings of the contents of an emerging pact to end their war, though both sides signalled that an agreement was close.
Pakistan, which has for weeks sought to ‌broker a deal, said a final text of a peace agreement between the United States and Iran had been reached, although there was no immediate confirmation from Washington or Tehran.

"Pakistan is now working closely with both sides to finalise the next steps," Prime Minister Shehbaz Sharif said in a post on X.
Leaked terms of the proposed memorandum of understanding outlined by Western, Pakistani and Iranian sources on Friday appeared to favour Iran, drawing criticism from U.S. President Donald Trump, who called the reports inaccurate.
While there were minor differences in the accounts, all appeared to offer Tehran much of what it has demanded so far, with Trump appearing to win little of what he has sought, beyond the reopening of the Strait of Hormuz, which Iran shut after the U.S. and Israel launched attacks in February.

Trump said leaked comments on a deal did not represent what had been agreed to. "The terms that Iran leaked out to the Fake News have NOTHING ⁠to do with the terms that were agreed to, in writing," Trump wrote on his Truth Social platform.
"Very dishonorable people to deal with," he said of the Iranians.
However, shortly afterwards, Trump reposted a social media post by Iranian Foreign Minister Abbas Araqchi, in which Araqchi said a memorandum to end the war had never been closer - and also warned against speculation over its contents until it was finalised.

WHAT'S IN THE DEAL?​

A Western source, an Iranian source and a Gulf source said a key issue yet to be resolved was language on ceasing hostilities in Lebanon. Iran has demanded Israel end a campaign against Iran's allies, the Hezbollah militia.
Under the terms of the text described by other sources to Reuters, the U.S. would immediately begin providing Iran with billions of dollars in unfrozen assets, and waive sanctions on its oil exports, in return for Iran opening the strait.

Discussion of Iran's nuclear programme would be set aside for a 60-day period of talks on a final settlement, there would be a discussion of war reparations to Tehran, and the dropping of longstanding demands for curbs on Iran's missile programme, the sources said.
Washington has previously demanded Iran give up its stockpile of highly enriched uranium. But none of the versions of the text reviewed by Reuters includes mention of it, and the sources said the demand had been explicitly excluded for now.

But a senior U.S. official, describing the agreement, said that the uranium stockpile "will be destroyed and removed" and Iran's nuclear programme would be dismantled.
 
Trump is desperate to avoid another economic meltdown under him.

That’s Iran’s nuclear deterrent.

Which the IRGC is exploiting expertly.
You should post that in the US Perspectives thread. The ultra-nationalist will tell you you are wrong and post a hundred Twitter reposts showing how you are wrong.
 
I don’t understand why the markets even react anymore-this is making the Boy Who Cried Wolf look restrained…

People are desperate to avoid a run on the market.

Because no one knows where it’ll end given the west has borrowed like an addicted gambler.

Any crumbs Trump throws is used to justify holding on.
 

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